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Rimuru Tempest vs Grimmon
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Ciel is a part of rimuru's soul, she can literally take over rimuru's body.
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Even when Grimmon has control over it? Can Ciel overpower Grimmon's control?
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When Grimmon takes over, he has control over what the person does. Basically, Rimuru is not a husk, his mind is still in charge, just under the control of Grimmon. If he sees that there is another mind, nothing is stopping him from taking it over as well.
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Read somewhere(likely the wiki) that one of his resitances evolved to full Adverse Effect Nullification which would include mind-hax and mind control. Not sure if relevant, but there's that.
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I know nothing about Grimmon or Digimon, but have read most of what's legibly out for TSSK. Big issue I've noticed with using Rimuru is that the wiki is an ungodly mess with stuff needing to be updated or better translated so I can see a lot of his matches needing revisions after the LN, manga, and anime get a bit more presence over here. And yes that's the one.
Edit: When I mean the wiki, I mean the wiki for the series not the one here. The one here is actually really neat and tidy.
Edit: When I mean the wiki, I mean the wiki for the series not the one here. The one here is actually really neat and tidy.
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No clear limit of Rimuru defence since Rimuru survive ranging from a world collapsing to space-time destroying attack it's confusing how strong his defence actually is
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Grimmon doesn't kill with his mind hax anyway. And Grimmon would botice another mind taking over and take that as well. Also no he can't bypass Mid Godly except with Mind Control.
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It does actually as it counts as incapacitation
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You might want to hold this a bit since depending on how Turn Null is treated, Veldanavar could be bumped into tier 1 and that would scale to World System which in turn was inferior to Ciel
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>Vel could be bumped into Tier 1
How?
How?
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You may need more than just that honestly...
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Depends on if this is a world where we have infinite universes and such.
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Well...don't know about "infinite" but there certainly are other worlds than the first world rimuru came from and the world the verse takes place in, there's also multi/parallel existence..which, going by velgrynd's ability, most likely is taking a parallel version of you from another world.
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Turn Null is implied to be higher dimensional, which also has a mention of ÞÂർíÕàâ rather than Ú½ÿµ¼íÕàâ . In which the former is treated as much superior than the latter
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Being implied to be higher dimensional =/= Always accepted as such. Also that could also still be Tier 2.
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Grimmon FRA!
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Yeah reading his Ultimate Slime page from the wiki, I give it to Rimuru due to having Abnormal Status and Mental Attack Nullification which in the context of the series means they STRAIGHT UP have no effect on him. Not that he can resist of fight them off, but they stray have no effect on him. Think something like the old Pokemon games where you'd use physical attacks on ghost pokemon or lightining attacks on rock pokemon. The attack literally just doesn't register.
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Has he done so on a 4-D scale. Assuming he can w/o feats is NLF. Not to mention he can mindhax people who already have their minds erased.
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It's a NLF, and no idea why he is bumping old threads.
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Grimmon via the tier 2 Mind Hax as stated above.
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Also Revisions aside, until the time comes along - as in, CRT happens and they are accepted - we should go by what we have. And by what we have so far, Grimmon sounds like the more logical winner.
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Even if we include the Mind stuff he still losesFateAlbane said:
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Just Blows your Mind, honestly.
I'm pointing that out because a good number of our characters had matches added even while they had CRTs underway, and *after* that, depending on results, it changed. Not before (another of our memetic Mind Haxorz, Devimura, had a good number of matches being added even at the same time her revisions were happening, for example).
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Until then
Grimmon gets rent by Nihilus
Grimmon gets rent by Nihilus
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Well Grimmon gets rekt by Nihilus as Nihil will kill him before he can mind hax or Chrono DSR. And Grimmon is not gonna get revised anytime soon.
