Rick and Morty High 1-A

[MasterIsander]

So, in this blog, I'm going to prove Rick and Morty High 1-A cosmology.

2 season 6 episode, Rick creates a universe, inside which another being (Zeep Xanflorp) creates his universe, inside which another being creates his universe, and so on ad infinitum. It is worth noting that these are not just pocket dimensions, they are entire universes. Every universe is infinite (this is a direct quote from a reliable source, the creator of the universe himself). The universes have superiority over each other in dimensionality, and this makes the world of Rick and Morty High 1-B (infinite dimensionality).

The world of Rick and Morty, in which the action of the animated series usually takes place, is the multiverse. Initially, it was a limited multiverse in which there were only worlds where Rick is the smartest being in the universe, but when Evil Morty broke the central end curve, it turned out to be a huge multiverse that encompasses all possibilities. This brings verse to the Low 1-A tier.

The world of Mr. Poopybutthole. It is known that the world where Mr. Poopybutthole lives surpasses the entire multiverse of Rick and Morty, because he sees it as fiction. This means that it is unattainable by any extensions of the Low 1-A hierarchies of the world, because fiction never reaches the real world. This makes it 1-A.

6 season 7 episode, Rick and Morty enter a meta-reality that lies beyond the fourth wall. This world is powered by pataphysics, which surpasses the metaphysics we have already discussed, just as metaphysics surpasses physics. Since the concept of "pataphysics" includes vision as fiction, this world also surpasses not only the multiverse of Rick and Morty, but also any extension of the hierarchy of worlds like the world of Mr. Poopybutthole. (if we imagine that person1 sees Mr. Poopybutthole as fiction, person2 sees person1 as fiction, and so on ad infinitum.) So it's meta-qualitative superiority, and it elevates Rick and Morty verse to a high 1-A. Rhett Caan and Tag-Man get an even higher level because they can most likely destroy the entire verse. (I'm not sure about the Rhett Caan, but actually, Tag-Man can definitely do it, since he represents the end of the episode, and the episode ends sometime). Although I don't think they get a High 1-A+ tier because they cover only a few layers of meta-qualitative hierarchies, not all their conceivable combinations of it, but they have a pretty high layer at High 1-A.

What do you think about it?

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Disagree

 

[Iiliminal]

Allat aleph omegas only to be solo'd by Undus Mundus in Agartha

 

[MasterIsander]

Allat aleph omegas only to be solo'd by Undus Mundus in Agartha

It's not aleph omegas, it's literally your favorite metaphysics

 

[MasterIsander]

Disagree

Why?

 

[Iiliminal]

It's not aleph omegas, it's literally your favorite metaphysics

the schizo hymns of unus mundus on yakubs enormous forehead from agartha?

 

[BoastJr]

Why?

Because :

 

[MasterIsander]

Pickle Rick solos Goku. Any other arguments?

 

[Lycoris4812]

Hell no.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Content Revision Threads need to be supported by scans, quotes, video clips, accepted calculations, or any other direct proof that claimed events actually happened in the source material. In the absence of this evidence, CRTs may be closed without notice.

 

[BoastJr]

I have the Sauce for the Scan here

100% True and Valid !

 

[MasterIsander]

But I have indicated in which episode the events I am talking about take place.

 

[MasterIsander]

What do I need to do to have my evidence accepted?

 

[Iiliminal]

What do I need to do to have my evidence accepted?

you must have the agartha permit

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

You guys should stop ragebaiting masterslander

 

[MasterIsander]

You guys should stop ragebaiting masterslander

So what do I need to do to get my revision accepted? I've written the season number and the episode I'm talking about, what else do I need to show?

 

[BoastJr]

Upload Clips of the Show or paste Images with subtitles in a gallery

because it will be easier for newer people to understand the context for this

Anyways, I watched this show a few times

1) Rick creating a microverse / miniverse / teenyverse doesn't work since the baseline reality is still rick's world which is blatantly 3D

2) Multiverse that encompasses all possibilites doesn't mean much without further context

3) Pretty sure the Rhett-con and Story Lord episode is just 4th wall breaking. Reality > Fiction only works if the characters are elevated to that level via outside sources that are Outerversal or its some "reality is illusion" but I hate chinamenslop so not bothering with that

A Good example is Arale's 4th wall breaks where she messes with toribot isn't really proof since Arale who is "fiction" is interacting with Tori Bot who is "real" which amounts to an antifeat unless its explain how or why

 

[MasterIsander]

Upload Clips of the Show or paste Images with subtitles in a gallery

Okay, so should I remake this blog or create new?

Rick creating a microverse / miniverse / teenyverse doesn't work since the baseline reality is still rick's world which is blatantly 3D

No, I've already explained, this is literally infinite universes, and being in a higher-level universe, you can easily destroy a universe of a lower level of existence. (which Rick did, destroying Zeep's universe). This means that there is literally a qualitative difference between these universes, because a quantitative difference won't do anything, infinity + 1 = infinity.

Multiverse that encompasses all possibilites doesn't mean much without further context

But it literally means the von Neumann Universe, which is written at the Low 1-A tier.

Pretty sure the Rhett-con and Story Lord episode is just 4th wall breaking. Reality > Fiction only works if the characters are elevated to that level via outside sources that are Outerversal or its some "reality is illusion" but I hate chinamenslop so not bothering with that

No, it's literally beyond verse, because if the meta-reality existed in the same multiverse as the rest of the dimensions, Rick could just use a portal gun. It should also be borne in mind that from the point of view of the plot, it is completely logical that this world is above the multiverse of Rick and Morty, because the screenwriter who created this verse literally lives there.

 

[BoastJr]

Okay, so should I remake this blog or create new?

Remake it to reduce clutter

Tag a few mods if you really want to

 

[Maniaunavailable]

Disagree aside from having scans, this lacks a lot of context, like a lot of it. 4th wall is also more than a hax than an actual trascendance feat. you would need to prove rick is actually outside of the multiverse and has totally superiority to his own verse.

 

[MasterIsander]

4th wall is also more than a hax than an actual trascendance feat. you would need to prove rick is actually outside of the multiverse and has totally superiority to his own verse.

4th wall is usually a hax when, for example, Rick addresses the audience, but note that I have never mentioned this. But when Rick literally travels to a higher world relative to his multiverse, it's not just hax, it's transcendence. How can Rick destroy the multiverse? I can assume that he can steal all the screenwriter's scripts and burn them, thus he will destroy the multiverse, because relative to the meta-reality, the multiverse is fiction.

 

[Rutæhh]

wouldnt being called a micro universe mean that it has measurable parts and also mean that enough the two universes can be bridged by size?

To better understand the concept, consider the fact that all tiers from 11-C to Low 1-A can ultimately be bridged together by summing up smaller things, and can likewise be decomposed down into these smaller constituents. For example, a mathematical space with an inaccessible cardinal's worth of dimensions (Well into High 1-B+) is reducible to the individual elements comprising it, each of which is a 0-dimensional point.

 

[Maniaunavailable]

4th wall is usually a hax when, for example, Rick addresses the audience, but note that I have never mentioned this. But when Rick literally travels to a higher world relative to his multiverse, it's not just hax, it's transcendence. How can Rick destroy the multiverse? I can assume that he can steal all the screenwriter's scripts and burn them, thus he will destroy the multiverse, because relative to the meta-reality, the multiverse is fiction.

this dosn't make too much sense, a higher world relative to his multiverse would be just 8D (given the current scale), that dosn't mean he jumps to 1A at all. also assuming dosnt work here. Still disagree

 

[Elyartaker]

Minus the lack of scans and the unclear paragraphs, I disagree.
I will skip the dimensional stuff and focus on 1-A and above.
Simply viewing something as fiction isn’t enough to qualify for R>F transcendence or qualitative superiority.
Also being able to travel to, enter or meaningfully affect higher qualitative realms would actually be an anti feat disqualifying those realms from having qualitative superiority.
I suggest reading the FAQ, BDE, R>F Transcendence and Tier System pages again then making a new thread with clearer wording and proper scans (if you still believe they can reach those tiers).
So let us all avoid arguing about this and trolling for now.

 

[Rutæhh]

6 season 7 episode, Rick and Morty enter a meta-reality that lies beyond the fourth wall. This world is powered by pataphysics, which surpasses the metaphysics we have already discussed, just as metaphysics surpasses physics. Since the concept of "pataphysics" includes vision as fiction, this world also surpasses not only the multiverse of Rick and Morty, but also any extension of the hierarchy of worlds like the world of Mr. Poopybutthole. (if we imagine that person1 sees Mr. Poopybutthole as fiction, person2 sees person1 as fiction, and so on ad infinitum.) So it's meta-qualitative superiority, and it elevates Rick and Morty verse to a high 1-A. Rhett Caan and Tag-Man get an even higher level because they can most likely destroy the entire verse. (I'm not sure about the Rhett Caan, but actually, Tag-Man can definitely do it, since he represents the end of the episode, and the episode ends sometime). Although I don't think they get a High 1-A+ tier because they cover only a few layers of meta-qualitative hierarchies, not all their conceivable combinations of it, but they have a pretty high layer at High 1-A.

this is actually an anti feat without more context which is why CRT requires evidence of what one describes

Just seeing that a hierarchy as fictional isnt enough. it is merely adding one more layer to an infinite ladder. what u need to prove is that the jump is akin to that of low 1-A to 1-A, where the lower parts dont make up the higher ones etc etc

also you have to explain how rick and morty were able to reach this level otherwise its an antifeat according to the wiki

Secondly, a 1-A level cannot be attained by a process in which the lower level quantitatively "adds up" to itself to break through into the higher one, due to the total lack of structural continuity between the two; the higher level cannot be attained, nor expressed by, any expansions of the lower one, and therefore things from the latter cannot interfere with the former by means of their own lower existences. Put simply: A non-1-A cannot reach the level of 1-A by appealing to another non-1-A

 

[MasterIsander]

wouldnt being called a micro universe mean that it has measurable parts and also mean that enough the two universes can be bridged by size?

No, you don't understand, Rick calls it the microverse because it's a micro relative to him. It just means that he is superior to it. If the inhabitants of this universe called it "microverse," then you'd be right, but it's not.

 

[MasterIsander]

this dosn't make too much sense, a higher world relative to his multiverse would be just 8D (given the current scale), that dosn't mean he jumps to 1A at all. also assuming dosnt work here. Still disagree

No, I scaled it to low 1-A

 

[Maniaunavailable]

No, you don't understand, Rick calls it the microverse because it's a micro relative to him. It just means that he is superior to it. If the inhabitants of this universe called it "microverse," then you'd be right, but it's not.

you need to prove this btw

 

[Rutæhh]

No, you don't understand, Rick calls it the microverse because it's a micro relative to him. It just means that he is superior to it. If the inhabitants of this universe called it "microverse," then you'd be right, but it's not.

yeah i reread it my apologies

 

[Vesxpura]

disagree, We literally have no evidence it was h1-B too. and that would make every human in ricks world h1-B too Which directly contrasts him actual dimensionality

 

[MasterIsander]

Just seeing that a hierarchy as fictional isnt enough. it is merely adding one more layer to an infinite ladder. what u need to prove is that the jump is akin to that of low 1-A to 1-A, where the lower parts dont make up the higher ones etc etc

As I have already explained, superiority is absolute, i.e. a higher narrative is unattainable by any extensions of hierarchies of a lower narrative.

also you have to explain how rick and morty were able to reach this level otherwise its an antifeat according to the wiki

Rick and Morty didn't achieve this on their own, they just went into the rift of the 4th wall, which was caused by a creature that inhabits the meta-reality, so it's not anti-feat. If Rick had used portal gun to do it, then it would not have been higher existence, as I have already explained.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

That sounds like a highly selective and rather arbitrary interpretation, one that seems to overlook important context and dismiss alternative perspectives.

 

[MasterIsander]

Which directly contrasts him actual dimensionality

What do you mean? It just means that previously people mistakenly assumed that it was 8D, when in fact single dimension in this multiverse = infinity dimensional.

 

[Rutæhh]

As I have already explained, superiority is absolute, i.e. a higher narrative is unattainable by any extensions of hierarchies of a lower narrative.

i wont pursue this further just seems to me like a different interpretation of whats happening

Rick and Morty didn't achieve this on their own, they just went into the rift of the 4th wall, which was caused by a creature that inhabits the meta-reality, so it's not anti-feat. If Rick had used portal gun to do it, then it would not have been higher existence, as I have already explained.

if a higher entity can enter a lower reality, would this not mean they are subject to that world divisions and thus still be an antifeat

 

[Re5yh]

Absolute Hell NO

 

[MasterIsander]

if a higher entity can enter a lower reality, would this not mean they are subject to that world divisions and thus still be an antifeat

No? I mean, it could be an avatar. In many verses that have a High 1-A cosmology, a character from a higher reality entered a lower reality, there's nothing wrong with that, it's just an ability.

 

[Maniaunavailable]

No? I mean, it could be an avatar. In many verses that have a High 1-A cosmology, a character from a higher reality entered a lower reality, there's nothing wrong with that, it's just an ability.

How is this relevant to the OP brother

 

[MasterIsander]

I've added videos.
Let me explain in more detail:
in the first video, when Zeep says that the universe is infinite, this applies to all other universes too, because they must work the same way to be batteries.
In the second video, we were shown that there are an infinity of universes and an infinite number of possibilities (even the finite curve is already infinite)
In the third video, Mr. Poopybutthole sees everything as fiction, which means he has an R>F transcendence
In the fourth video, it is shown that this is a screenwriter and he writes the whole Rick and Morty, and it also proves the existence of pataphysics in verse because of the phrase "I am your character." Pataphysics itself already surpasses metaphysics, which means it is higher than the world in which Mr. Poopybutthole is located and above all hierarchies that can be done with metaphysics (High 1-A)

 

[Vesxpura]

What do you mean? It just means that previously people mistakenly assumed that it was 8D, when in fact single dimension in this multiverse = infinity dimensional.

prove they were mistaken. Im literally putting into question WHY its infinite dimensional. when it clearly isnt. i even justified it.

put simply, YOUR WRONG.

 

[Rutæhh]

No? I mean, it could be an avatar.

could u provide evidence of this please.

In many verses that have a High 1-A cosmology, a character from a higher reality entered a lower reality,

no this is a major disqualification for 1-A and higher as described in the FAQ.

A: The potential disqualifiers largely revolve around the aforementioned aspect of inaccessibility: A qualitative superiority is completely irreducible to anything lesser than itself, and conversely, it cannot be reached by any additive process whatsoever.

there's nothing wrong with that, it's just an ability.

? which one?

will check out new content later probably saturday