Resident Evil: Revision Edition (OG Timeline)

[AnonymousStandUser]

As the title suggests this CRT mainly concerns with the OG timeline of RE, this will mostly apply to characters before RE7 although characters like Ethan and Jack Baker are in this. This will be a long one so…

Attack Potency​

• Ustanak runs through concrete walls and pillars - 0.222 Tons of TNT (The blog says 0.16 but the frag value of reinforced concrete changed from 10 to 13.8 j/cc)
  • Directly upgrades to Ustanak’s and Jake Muller’s physicals obviously. Should also upgrade every character from RE6 (Leon, Helena, Chris, Piers, Sherry, Ada). Could also upscale other characters that aren’t in RE6 (Like a Jill and Krauser)
• Guns destroying a large rock structure - 0.939 Tons of TNT (Edit: I also forgor)
  • Upgrades guns to be Small Building to Building level. A non-upgraded handgun can destroy it in 7 shots whereas a non-upgraded magnun can destroy it in 1 shot so gun AP falls between 0.134 to 0.939 Tons of TNT.
• Large Sized B.O.Ws - 4.12 Tons of TNT
  • Scales directly to Rocket Launchers. Directly upgrades Wesker since it’s stated his strength is superior to any completed B.O.W, the strongest enemy Chris has ever faced, and can also tank multiple rockets like the Malacoda Whale.
• Mia throws Ethan through a wall - 2.42 Megajoules
  • Scales to Ethan's and Jack Baker's physicals

Speed​

• Running speed - 27 Miles Per Hour
  • Downgrades travel speed. There’s no evidence of Leon, or any character, outrunning Tyrant, or at least one that’s linked to the profile. However Chris and Jill have outran Cerberus when in a full sprint so characters should scale to that at least.
• Jill dodges missiles - Mach 2.5 to 7.57
  • Upgrades Jill’s combat and reaction speed to Hypersonic. Should also upgrade other characters’ combat and reaction speed.
• Wesker outruns a mine explosion - Mach 18.85 to Mach 20.04
  • Upgrades Wesker’s travel and combat speed to Hypersonic+
• Wesker dodges electricity - Mach 82.7
  • Gives Wesker High Hypersonic+ reaction speed

Durability​

Characters’ durability rating should be as high as their enemies AP

• Jack Krauser “survives” an explosion - 0.364 Tons of TNT
  • Upgrades Krauser’s durability to Building level. Could also scale other characters’ durability to be “at most Building level”.

Intelligence​

• Karl Heisenberg should be rated “Genius”
  • Heisenberg’s experiments are actually impressive. Directly quoting @Da3ggman (I’m not bothering to paraphrase it) “He has them outfitted with a device that stabilizes their physical movements by simulating brainwaves, allowing them to engage in combat and even be able to understand language and commands to a certain extent, as seen with Sturm. This is the kind of shit fleets of scientists and researchers have been trying to create and develop for decades now due to things like paralysis, Parkinson's, and nerve damage, and we collectively have barely managed to do a fraction of what Heisenberg has done with just rusted junk.”

Lifting Strength​

• Leon and Helena push a boulder - Class 25 to 50
  • This is long overdue, the Class 10 result uses the wrong formula.
• Hunk snapping necks
  • Snapping a human neck is Class 1 so Hunk’s lifting strength is Class 1

Common abilities​

Additions (Most abilities basically applies to every character, abilities based on their weapons)

• Explosion Manipulation
• Fire Manipulation
• Light Manipulation
• Acid Manipulation
• Electricity Manipulation
• Poison Manipulation

Removals

• Stealth Mastery (Unless quietly walking past Lickers or turning the lights off on Wesker counts as Stealth Mastery, this can be removed from most character’s profiles)
• Statistics Amplification (This comes from Yellow Herbs but they’ve only appeared in RE4 and only Leon and Ada have canonically used them)
• Damage Reduction (This comes from Blue Herbs but they don’t show up past Code: Veronica)

Character specific abilities​

Chris Redfield​

• There’s a lot so I’m going to just post my Chris Redfield sandbox profile, it pretty much includes every ability I would put for Chris

Jill Valentine​

• Same goes for Jill, here’s the sandbox profile of Jill

Ada Wong (Edit: I fogor)​

• Acrobatics (She flips and swings around from her grapple gun)

Albert Wesker​

• Acrobatics (Literally does spins and flips all the time)
• Afterimage Creation (Shown here)
• Social Influencing (Deception: fooled S.T.A.R.S into the Arklay Mansion. And Coercion: Forced Barry Burton to work with him by threatening his family)
• Limited Telepathy (Shown here) (Quick explanation on how it works here)
• Regeneration (High-Mid) (It's suggested that Wesker can regenerate from a tissue fragment, he hasn't showcased this level of regen so I'd suggest this to be rated as "Possibly" or "Likely") High-Mid overtime)
• (Edit: Didn't know this existed) Pseudo-Teleportation (Because duh)
• Resistant to Fire Manipulation (Shown here)

Claire Redfield​

• Danmaku (Able to use a Gatling Gun)
• Acrobatics (Shown here)

Sheva Alomar​

• Pretty much gets the same things as Chris with the exemption of Danmku, Power Null and Analytical Prediction

Sherry and Jake (and maybe Ustanak too)​

• Resistant to Electricity Manipulation (Shown here)

Verdugo​

• Acrobatics (It can do flips)
• Afterimage Creation (Shown here)

Idea on how to implement this​

Most characters should get at least 2 keys to separate "Classic RE" (Where their best feat is crushing zombie heads and destroying crates) and "Modern RE" (Where they're now just fist fighting B.O.Ws). This applies to Chris Refield, Jill Valentine, Claire Refield, Rebecca Chambers, Leon Kennedy and Ada Wong.

Example:​

Key: Games between RE1 to RE4 (In terms of canonical order) | After RE4 (By the time RE becomes action)​

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Tier: 9-B physically, higher with weaponry, 9-A with a Rocket Launcher | 9-A physically, 9-A with low calibre guns up to 8-C with high calibre guns and explosives, High 8-C with a Rocket Launcher​

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Speed: Peak Human travel speed with Supersonic combat speeds and reactions | Superhuman travel speed with Hypersonic combat speed and reaction​

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Durability: At most Small Building level | At most Building level​

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Stamina: Peak Human | Superhuman​

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Obviously this would vary between characters but I suggest this is how their profiles should look like.

Alright I think that's all...

Edit​

We should give New-game+ and one-time-use weapons as Optional Equipment. (I think it would be cool if Ethan is given a lightsaber)

Agree: @Da3ggman (Neutral on Krauser’s durability), @Dark-Carioca, @Lightning_XXI, @HASE-1929, @Dalesean027, @TurtleGod55, @Dereck03
Disagree:
Neutral:

 

[Dalesean027]

Following, will comment when off work

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Seems agreeable at a glance

 

[Da3ggman]

Durability​

Characters’ durability rating should be as high as their enemies AP

• Jack Krauser “survives” an explosion - 0.364 Tons of TNT
  • Upgrades Krauser’s durability to Building level. Could also scale other characters’ durability to be “at most Building level”.

Neutral on this since I never played RE4, and I don’t really have an opinion on whether he actually took the explosion.

Intelligence​

• Karl Heisenberg should be rated “Genius”
  • Heisenberg’s experiments are actually impressive. Directly quoting @Da3ggman (I’m not bothering to paraphrase it) “He has them outfitted with a device that stabilizes their physical movements by simulating brainwaves, allowing them to engage in combat and even be able to understand language and commands to a certain extent, as seen with Sturm. This is the kind of shit fleets of scientists and researchers have been trying to create and develop for decades now due to things like paralysis, Parkinson's, and nerve damage, and we collectively have barely managed to do a fraction of what Heisenberg has done with just rusted junk.”

Obviously I agree, but I’ll make a proper Intelligence section for him when I get the time.

• Regeneration (High-Mid) (It's suggested that Wesker can regenerate from a tissue fragment, he hasn't showcased this level of regen so I'd suggest this to be rated as "Possibly" or "Likely")

Tbh I think it should probably just be a straight upgrade, since it comes from an extremely reliable source in William, and there aren’t any canon anti-feats for it.

However, I also think it could count as Ressurection, since the translated text states that it can rebuild “ even if death results” from the damage.

Everything I didn’t comment on I agree with.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Oof, nice additions for the characters

Jill Valentine​

• Same goes for Jill, here’s the sandbox profile of Jill

Why would Jill scale to her P30 self ? She seems overall comparable to the other protagonists in Death Island, so I believe her current Post 2009 self should be listed as scaling from them, using her feats, but not P30, unless we have statements saying she kept all the upgrades

Also, in Jill's case, she should be "Post 2009" for her 3rd key

Albert Wesker​

• Regeneration (High-Mid) (It's suggested that Wesker can regenerate from a tissue fragment, he hasn't showcased this level of regen so I'd suggest this to be rated as "Possibly" or "Likely")

I don't think it's necessary, the feat seems to be an overtime regeneration given we don't have a timeframe and Wesker's feats are only at Low-Mid range, so we could just add "High-Mid overtime" while also adding the fact that it isn't guaranteed he will revive, as the statement says

I agre with the rest

 

[AnonymousStandUser]

Why would Jill scale to her P30 self ? She seems overall comparable to the other protagonists in Death Island, so I believe her current Post 2009 self should be listed as scaling from them, using her feats, but not P30, unless we have statements saying she kept all the upgrades

Post 2009 Jill does scale to the other protagonists in Death Island, who invertedly scale to Jake Muller (At least Chris and Leon do).
I just reread my Jill sandbox profile, I have no clue why I wrote that so yeah I'll just rewrite it to say Jill scales to Chris and Leon

 

[HASE-1929]

Agree

 

[Baken384]

Games between RE1 to RE4 (In terms of canonical order) | After RE4 (By the time RE becomes action)

Not gonna lie shouldn't it be RE1 to RE3, and then RE4 onwards. Resident Evil 4 is easily more action oriented than anything seen in the previous games

 

[AnonymousStandUser]

Not gonna lie shouldn't it be RE1 to RE3, and then RE4 onwards. Resident Evil 4 is easily more action oriented than anything seen in the previous games

No because Re umbrella chronicles and darkside chronicles exist and those are before RE4 on the timeline, where Umbrella Chronicles has Chris still depicted in his RE1/ Code Veronica appearance.

 

[Dalesean027]

The changes seem fine and I'm fine with High mid regen over time

 

[Baken384]

Re umbrella chronicles and darkside chronicles exist and those are before RE4 on the timeline, where Umbrella Chronicles has Chris still depicted in his RE1/ Code Veronica appearance.

Imo the RE4 feats should only be applicable to the second key onwards. But so far this is good

 

[AnonymousStandUser]

Imo the RE4 feats should only be applicable to the second key onwards. But so far this is good

Right, I'm rereading my stuff and what I wrote is a little confusing.
I meant it as RE1<=every other game in between<RE4

 

[Leon_SsS_K4nnedy]

Honestly, 80% of this thread was once discussed in Discord about Resident Evil more than a year ago, I'm glad that they also reached VSB, great job.

 

[Da3ggman]

I also fine with High-Mid overtime especially since he's coming back in RE9 after 2 decades of being dead

 

[Lightning_XXI]

I also fine with High-Mid overtime especially since he's coming back in RE9 after 2 decades of being dead

inb4 VS accurately predicts Wesker's return

 

[TurtleGod55]

I agree with everything except giving Claire danmaku with a Gatling Gun

 

[AnonymousStandUser]

I agree with everything except giving Claire danmaku with a Gatling Gun

Why though ? Miniguns qualify for Danmaku

 

[TurtleGod55]

Why though ? Miniguns qualify for Danmaku

I didn’t see that part sorry

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Don't forget to add the references, and the statistics values for the speeds and LS too

 

[Dereck03]

The changes seem fine and I'm fine with High mid regen over time

Same here.

 

[AnonymousStandUser]

Same here.

And with that this CRT is good ?

 

[Dereck03]

Should be fine to apply.

 

[AnonymousStandUser]

Alright with that I think we can close this thread, there is definitely nothing more I can add, I'll apply these changes tomorrow (Unless there's a dedicated person to sort these things out). So unless there's something else to discuss here, we're good.

Thank you everyone helping out.

 

[Dalesean027]

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