Request: Dr. Strange (Classic) vs. Time (Incarnations)

[Dargoo_Faust]

That would require Strange to A) Reverse Time on someone who resists timehax to begin with B) Cast another spell after that, at which point he'd already be frozen in time with a thought from the incarnation.

Meanwhile Time would be aware of Strange to begin with and would just freeze him in place immediatly.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Not what I meant

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Strange reversing time for himself wouldn't help either, as, again, that requires two serperate actions to kill Time, whereas Time only needs one action to permamently incap Strange.

Time can also just shunt out the timehax as any form of timehax in Incarnations has to be faciliated through him.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

If we're playing that game, eternity who embodies time wouldn't let time time top strange

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Did Eternity even try doing that, and did Strange explicitly bypass it, and can I have a scan?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I'm saying that "any form of timehax in incarnations" is a NLF. It means he resists his own verses, not all timehax ever. No one besides him in verse has good timehax.

 

[Agnaa]

I'm saying that "any form of timehax in incarnations" is a NLF. It means he resists his own verses, not all timehax ever. No one besides him in verse has good timehax.

This is how we treat hax and resistances.

If you resist normal EE, then you resist normal EE from another verse. Another verse has to display EE that gets around EE resistance.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Also the fight wouldn't take palce in the Marvel Universe, ergo Eternity wouldn't be present.

Wheras time is present, who controls and embodies time.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

What type is time's abstract existence?

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

I'm saying that "any form of timehax in incarnations" is a NLF. It means he resists his own verses, not all timehax ever. No one besides him in verse has good timehax.

Standard Battle Assumptions, see Verse Equalization.

And Time is every form of timehax in Incarations as he embodies the entire idea of time and causality there.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

What type is his abstract existence?

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

What type is time's abstract existence?

Time doesn't have AE. The concept of Time is tied to an object that he carries and is empoered by/has control over.

So he embodies Time by proxy.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Does he need to hold it to use it?

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

No.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I mean, Dormammu can absorb universes, which presumably includes space and time

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

And?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

So time manipulation wouldn't work since Strange regularily fights a dude who can absorb space-time

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Fighting someone who can timehax doesn't automatically make you resist timehax (And even then that's absorbing time, not stopping/slowing/whatever).

For example, punching Homura Akemi doesn't mean you're suddenly immune to timestops, it just means Homura suffered from a sudden and incurable disease known as Plot-Induced Stupidity.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I mean, Strange also has the time stone on the infinity gem which thus give him 2-A time manipulation

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

I don't see 2-A timehax on his profile, nor do I see the Time Stone on his standard equipment.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

...When I use a strikethrough, it means I'm joking.

Oh, you're actually right.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

He does have the Soul and Space Stones, however, although it's out of character for him to use them.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Not that it matters since he has soul manipulation and spatial manipulation anyways

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

True, although I'd assume the Soul/Space Stone are more potent.

So, can you agree that Time takes this more times than not via freezing Strange in place/reversing Strange's time?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I'll hold off my vote for now