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Ren vs Devilman Redux

Well things have changed sinds Devilman passive Transmutation/Fusionism has been accepted. Now i like to know how Ren Fuji gonne deal with that.
 
It's accepted to be passive. Amon can transmutate within the large portion of the country passively.
 
Ooohhh, it's not instantaneous. I say it gives more than enough time for Ren to decapitate, especially with his speed boost.
 
Well the SBA states this Starting distance: The characters start as far away from each other as the highest range of the fighters is, but a maximum of 4 kilometers. For example, if one character has a range of 10 meter and the other has a range of 20 meter they start 20 meter apart. However if the range of one character is 10 meter and the range of the other is 5 kilometer, they start only 4 kilometer apart. If extreme advantages are generated via this distance to one side, a balanced alternative should be discussed in the thread.

Now the other one is how is Ren gonne kill Devilam while avoiding the Transmutation thats grows stronger.
 
Oh boy if Ren multiplie his speed even faster he should avoid that Transmutation and how's he gonna kill Devilman: Ren has that 1-A curse so yeah it easily bypasses his Regenerationn.
 
They can easily kill the other, the problem is the range for both characters and while the transmutation/melting has a greater range, Ren passively amps his speed to a ridiculous degree while slowing Devilman.

If Ren starts inside the Range he could probably amp himself enough to kill Devilman and regen later or he gets melted and Devilman wins, on the other hand Ren starts out of the range of that transmutation thing then he and amps to the point where Devilman is stopped and goes fo the kill.

Going by the scans of that link I would ask for the standar 4k so both have a chance of winning, since you know, Devilman has the highest range but given that distance it will be enough for Ren to amp.

As for how Ren is going to kill Devilman, it's taking the melting head on and evading what he could (since it's not instantaneus) and decapitate on time to stop that thing.

Personally I will go with Ren mid-high difficulty winning 6-7/10 times.
 
ABoogieYesSir said:
Aye but Ren could could stand against Ren's spear.
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w0t? hahaha :v

No jokes this time, HardRein's spear is soul and mind hax greater than Methuselah's aura (in DI), and could hold it for a brief moment in Kei route wich leads to his existence being burned (but I call that bs or PLOT) and that is not transmutation.
 
A-are you really using the anime as proof?

...

Answering your question, yes I have seen that chapter. Anyway, Ren gets penetrated by Rein's spear at the end of Marie route wich is the one animated and that happens when they both are Hadou Gods, but it doesn't matter here since this is EFF Ren.
 
firstly @Aboggie that's hadou god so that doesn't mean much here. And EFF will still passively slow him down but the question is what kind of transmuation is this? Iirc there was a thread that said if its a transmutation to kill regen can work or smth
 
EFF passively amps Ren around 3000x his initial speed from the get go.

Also, Devilman gets 3000x slower due to that, since EFF slows things in proportion to how much Ren accelerates.
 
Btw... @Boogie, the anime is non-canon and poorly adaptated. Don't you dare to use it as a proof.


Buut... Ren withstood Rein's spear in Kei Route. For a second. He grabbed the lance after Reinhard missed (Swastikas nerfing him to the point of not being able to use all of his powers), but his existence nearly got erased before he could let the spear go.
 
Even with the user gone, Transmutation will still going. It's instantaneous, passive, covers 4km easily, turn you into goo Transmutation. Once it transmutates pinky, it'll slowly but surely consume him.
 
How long is the process of transmutation? Does it takes time to transmute or instant? If it takes time then Ren blitz. Ren can reaches 4 Km easily. Not to mention Ren also slow everything around him, that could possibly include the transmutation process.
 
It's instantly transmutated large portion of Japan in an instant. But Ren's slow should work enough to kill. But even Devilman is killed, transmutated would still get transmutated until they're completely turned into paste. It works without it's user.
 
but what if ren realizes the goo is still going wouldn't he try to get away? And i think he can if it gets close to him or smth?
 
Getting away after part of you is Transmutated is muda muda muda. It works independently at the same fashion as how it works after Devilman is dead.
 
Even Amon Got fodderd by it:

https://www.***********.net/amon/1/178

https://www.***********.net/amon/1/179

https://www.***********.net/amon/1/180

https://www.***********.net/amon/1/181

Its even confirmed that he got fodderd by it.
 
so if it doesn't hit ren he won't get mushed and can run while if it does get hit it gets transmuted anyway? But what if he cuts himself like cut of a piece of his arm that was transmuted or such? And again what kind of transmutation is this (the type that kills or the type that simply keeps person alive but in a different part of flesh kind)?
 
Leaves you dead kind of Transmutation. It's weird. Cutting pieces that are transmutated would work but even then sometimes it starts on somewhere like face.
 
i mean...he has low godly though it will hurt tbf...and wasn't there a thread on how the regen can counter certain types of transmutation?
 
Going by the scans of that animevice thread this isn't instantaneous as you say but rather it takes some time and even then it works in a kind wave of bodies, only if that hits the target the starts the melting. Even if Ren gets caught in some part of his body he could just take out that part and regen back.

How does this thing fares against godly regen?
 
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