Ren Amamiya Vs Goku

[Shinrya]

Low 2-C forms used

Goku

Ren

Incon

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Ren isn't even 2-C, and he haxstomps.

 

[Stillwinston]

Iirc this was done wayyyy back and got removed. I think Ren just thinks and it's over?

 

[Ionliosite]

Goku isn't 2-C.

 

[Shinrya]

Low 2-C lemme fix that

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Joker puts Goku to sleep, hits him with a death spell, or conceptually destroys him with Sinful Shell just to name a few.

 

[Stillwinston]

Joker thinks

 

[TheGatememer]

Remember to equalize speed or Goku speed blitzes

 

[Ehnkr2beboh]

Oh yeah Speed isn't equal right now so Goku via speed blitz.

 

[Solacis]

Speed unequal and it's a speed-blitz stomp in Goku's favor.

Speed equal and it's a hax-stomp in Ren's favor.

GG thread.

 

[Eganergo]

No, speed unequal Goku dies by his own attack via reflection.

 

[TheGatememer]

Is it always active though?

 

[Solacis]

I can't remember if we have numbers for Persona's MFTL+ speed, so assuming it's baseline, Goku attacks billions of times before Ren even blinks. And the chances of Ren conveniently starting with a Persona that repels Physical is too improbable to consider valid.

 

[Eganergo]

Is it always active though?

Yes depending on the perosna chosen, it's passive.

Since Ren is game character, whatever persona he use is decided by us.

 

[Solacis]

That's not quite how it works. His opening moves are decided by his intelligence and personality, of which the details are only typically known by knowledgeables.

 

[Eganergo]

Is that so? All his previous matches are incorrect then. Because everything were decided by the supporters.

 

[Solacis]

I'll go through the old matches and see if any would be outright invalidated, then.

 

[Eganergo]

Right, the most notable one was his starting persona and opening move. I always thought it was weird that game character has the privilege of precog that can bypass acausal type 5 (As if they know and choose everything that counter the enemy), but whatever...

 

[Solacis]

All of Joker's wins seem to still hold up, though I skipped reading through his match with Sonic because damn if I'm reading through that behemoth again.

Anyway, Joker opens with either guns or basic offensive spells to gauge his opponent, but in the time it takes for him to pull out his gun, Goku would've killed him a thousand times over. Yeah, speed needs to be equalized.

 

[Eganergo]

Again it depends on the starting persona because he can outright reflect or null physical. I don't think speed has anything to do with his passive. Even on the game description his affinity is stated to be passive.

 

[TheGatememer]

Doesn't Goku one shot though? Can Ren reflect that?

 

[Eganergo]

Good question.

Dunno if he can take more than what has been shown, but his passive can never be broken by anything that doesn't bypass it.

 

[AwkguyDB]

So Goku has the AP one shot but Ren has the Hax. Whats more likely to happen first IC for both.

 

[Schnee_One]

Don't think Goku can one shot

Anyway, Ren thinks

 

[TheGatememer]

I doubt Ren can think fast enough without speed =

 

[AwkguyDB]

Don't think Goku can one shot
Anyway, Ren thinks

why not? He's Half 2-C XD

 

[Eganergo]

Good question.
Dunno if he can take more than what has been shown, but his passive can never be broken by anything that doesn't bypass it.

Well, if any Persona supporters can answer this question...

 

[Uniasha]

okay did ren fought anyone 500+ quadrillion times the speed of light before?

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

okay did ren fought anyone 500+ quadrillion times the speed of light before?

Goku isn't 500 quadrillion the speed of light

 

[Uniasha]

okay did ren fought anyone 500+ quadrillion times the speed of light before?

Goku isn't 500 quadrillion the speed of light

he could technically is already trillions of times in base form when we flew from heaven to hell along with pikkon back in DBZ buu saga

 

[TheGatememer]

Non canon

 

[AwkguyDB]

okay did ren fought anyone 500+ quadrillion times the speed of light before?

Goku isn't 500 quadrillion the speed of light

Depends

SSJG Goku scales to 3/4 Whis speed from Beerus and he's had massive amps in power and speed since then.

 

[Schnee_One]

Goku doenscales from the 3/4th feat as Beerus was holding back when he fought him.

He currently does scale to Beerus being 3/4 Whis, but he's not above it

 

[Uniasha]

Non cano

if not then he scale to whis who flew from beerus' planet to earth in 10 seconds during the time goku fought arale which at least put him a few quadrillion or trillions of times the speed of light

 

[Eganergo]

Passive null/absorb/repel basically creates an invisible barrier around him. The problem is whether it can hold a power higher than his scaling chain or not. Though the barrier itself never been shown to be broken or even damaged, even by power greater than him before.

But yeah, speed can be equalized and Joker stomps via thinking anything.

 

[AwkguyDB]

BoG Goku's MFTL Key: Massively FTL+ (Fought with a suppressed Beerus, who should be moving at least as fast as his casual flight speed)

Beerus' casual MFTL+ Key Massively FTL+ (Flew to a planet at 3/4th the speed of Whis)

Whis' feat Massively FTL+ (498 quadrillion times)

 

[Uniasha]

if speed wasnt equalised goku can kill this guy without ultra instinct

 

[AwkguyDB]

On top of this you have to factor in that Base Dyspo was giving Hit trouble who was comparable to SSJBKK Goku from the Champa Arc. Dyspo amped his speed THOUSANDS of times over with Super Speed. MUI Goku and Jiren are obviously faster than FP Dyspo.

 

[AwkguyDB]

so yeah Goku could stand on Ren's head, pull down his pants and drop a turd on his head, wipe himself and then effective blitz before Ren had time to blink XD.

 

[Uniasha]

not only that goku could be faster than time momentarily via super saiyan blue kaioken x10