Regarding Sasuke's Amaterasu AP

[ScarletFirefly]

As for this glorious ability. I mean in Raikage's profile it has it noted that he cut his own arm off without discomfort (It's under stamina)

That is referring to Raikage's own stamina. Meaning he can withstand the pain of self mutilation. That doesn't change the fact that Raikage was fighting with his arm on fire. If his Durability is Multi-City Block level, Amaterasu would've burned right through him, just like it burned Killer Bee's Hachibi form.

Gaara's sand doesn't count as durability since it's not the person himself, as for Raikage it's not like it didn't do anything to him, I mean he had to cut off his own arm haha.
Actually yes it does count since his Durability doesn't come from his body alone. It's calculated at it's peak, meaning when he's protected with sand.

Also still remains the fact that Sasuke cut through Bee with Chidori and Bee is Large Island level.

 

[Aizenishere]

You right mate, sorry bout that and thnaks for the eye opener, don't know what I was smoking.

For the first point yeah, I don't think there is any explaining that... just a f*ck up on the writers part I guess because, it doesn't make sense.

As for the second point, I can only guess but perhaps since Gaara's sand is infused with Chakra it makes for a very convenient shield. Besides it's not like when you super heat sand it gets destryoed anyways. Maybe the flames just kept making glass and Gaara kept reverting it back to sand

For the Chidori Sasuke deserves that. I'd be suprised if that wasn't added on with his revision.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Did Sasuke cut through Bee in his Tailed Beast Mode?

 

[ScarletFirefly]

Did Sasuke cut through Bee in his Tailed Beast Mode?

He didn't use that technique until Bee fully transformed. Probably because he was overwhelmed by Bee's speed and got wrecked by a point blank lariat.

 

[Aizenishere]

It was a B's max Dura so I believe so.

Also @ScarletFireFly

Once created, it can continue burning for seven days and seven nights. The flames cannot be extinguished with water or any other normal methods;[5] only the user can put the flames out.[6] Said to be "the fires from hell" and to burn as hot as the sun itself,[1] Amaterasu burns any material — other flames included — until nothing but ash remains.[7] Throughout the series some objects have shown some degree of imperviousness to the flames such as Gaara's chakra-infused sand,[8] and Naruto's Version 1 chakra cloak.[9]

For all its lethal potential, Amaterasu burns fairly slowly, allowing targets to remove burning clothes before their body is caught ablaze or, if it's too late for that, remove the burning body part(s) before it spreads.

This is what I could dig up from the Narutopedia, while it's nothing solid hopefully it helps at least a bit.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

For all its lethal potential, Amaterasu burns fairly slowly, allowing targets to remove burning clothes before their body is caught ablaze or, if it's too late for that, remove the burning body part(s) before it spreads.

Yeah that "hot as the sun" thing is definitely a hyperbole. Also if the target has time to remove his clothes, why did B catch fire like he was doused in gasoline lol

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Maybe the Raikage ignoring Amaterasu is due to his higher pain threshold?

 

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^probably the best explanation here.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

Maybe the Raikage ignoring Amaterasu is due to his higher pain threshold?

He may endure the pain, but if Amaterasu burned through High 6-C Hachibi in seconds, his arm would've been disintegrated.

 

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Actually it didn't burn through it was superficial only,as showed when Sasuke cuts one of his tails

 

[Aizenishere]

No need to say it like that mate, it's not I'm the one who said any fo it.

It's why I clearly said at the end it's nothing solid but I hope it helps a little. Which I believe it did.

 

[Aizenishere]

Maybe the Raikage ignoring Amaterasu is due to his higher pain threshold?

He may endure the pain, but if Amaterasu burned through High 6-C Hachibi in seconds, his arm would've been disintegrated.

So why didn't it? That's the million dollar question xD

 

[ScarletFirefly]

Actually it didn't burn through it was superficial only,as showed when Sasuke cuts one of his tails

No I mean, the guy was screaming in agony, like literally screaming. B doesn't have a low pain threshhold as shown when he battled the other jinchurikis who injured him quite a lot.

 

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Well in his case Amaterasu was all over his body lol.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

So why didn't it? That's the million dollar question xD

Exactly why I'm here. The Amaterasu has very inconsistent showings throughout the series which I'm questioning.

 

[Aizenishere]

I suppose one of the only valid answers is "The Raikage's pain tolerence is just that much higher"

 

[ScarletFirefly]

I suppose one of the only valid answers is "The Raikage's pain tolerence is just that much higher"

I suppose those Samurai armors are a pretty durable as well. Folded Nippon steel lol

Still though, Sasuke should get looked at, in terms of this and his Chidori Spear that severed Hachibi's tentacle.

 

[Aizenishere]

lol.

Yea he should definitely. I'd be suprised if this wasn't look at in his revision. After it's done and if it for some reason hasn't. The we should push for a change.

IMHO though the Raikage fighting with flames is just PIS. Especially if he can do something like THAT to B.

Oh well I guess. Time will tell eh mate.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Amaterasu is described as being hotter than the sun. It goes well with Bee screaming in pain. The samurai thing should be ignored.

 

[Aizenishere]

Uhm.... If it was as hot as the SUN then the Raikages arm woudn't have needed to be cut off because it wouldn't exist anymore

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Ah well, dunno.

Also, I honestly don't know what to think about Sasuke cutting Bee's tentacles. Like I said, it's like Sage Mode Naruto contending with Kurama. I reread the fight and he temporarily clashed with Kurama's tails with his Ultra Big Ball Rasengan before he was pushed back. Then, he smacked Rasenshuriken into him and it was mentioned that Kurama was weakened after that. Then Naruto wanted to pull his chakra out but Kurama's hatred almost overwhelmed him before his mother appeared. After their pep talk, she pinned down Kurama with her chains and Naruto used shadow clones + Rasengan spam and shadow clones + Ultra Big Ball Rasengan spam with Kurama roaring (?) in pain at one point. I remember there was one time that Kurama went "How is he so powerful". And then, we have the members of the Akatsuki somehow contending with and capturing some of the bijuu.

 

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Alright let's pause this until the revision and than discus with gwyn.

 

[Aizenishere]

If not gwyn then we need one of the big boys here to help us out.

Otherwise yeah we should pause.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

I think Gywn is the only staff member that helps out with Naruto issues, so yeah we'll have to wait for him.

 

[Aizenishere]

And he won't be available til after the revisions so yea I guess this should be pasued.

 

[Joseph619]

Hmm. Amaterasu does not completely ignore durability, it has no effect on inanimate objects like clothes, vest ot armour. However I don't think anyone has get rid of amaterasu from body except Nagato with shinra tensei. However amaterasu is not direct attack potency, as its effect is the same on everybody (a weaker Sasuke can easily burn Tobirama to death with Ama if it connects)

But yeah, 7-B with amaterasu should be removed, Amaterasu does not destroy anything and should to scale to anybody. But I don't think Sasuke burning B is outlier, if the fire gets on your skin you're roast.

 

[XBlackExcellenceX]

Amaterasu definitely ignores durability to an extent. Some occasions of it not doing so should just be chalked up as a plothole or PIS. Which part 2 of Naruto is full of. Sca

 

[ScarletFirefly]

Hmm. Amaterasu does not completely ignore durability, it has no effect on inanimate objects like clothes, vest ot armour.

If it didn't have an effect on inanimated objects Karin's clothes wouldn't have been burned and the Samurais would have no reason to quickly remove their armors.

However amaterasu is not direct attack potency, as its effect is the same on everybody (a weaker Sasuke can easily burn Tobirama to death with Ama if it connects)

That would mean it ignores durability which is contradicted by Raikage's and Gaara's case.

 

[Joseph619]

Well Naruto is full of inconsistency so it's nearly impossible to make a single case for amaterasu.

 

[BarryAllen2.0]

Well at Current, Amaturatsu should be at least Country Level in burning AP considering Sasuke and Naruto's Combo Amaturatsu made juubi cry in pain and Current Sasuke is far superior to Juubi.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

I should probably close this as well, no point going in circles with this. I'll wait until Gwynbleiddd is done with his revisions/

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

To be fair, this whole fight was taking place inside Naruto's mind so I doubt its anything real or serious. As his Jinchuraki it would make sense that Naruto would be able to keep up with him in his own mind. Not to mention, Naruto got help from his Mother in order to help him catch Kurama. And if you think about it, Naruto didnt even really beat Kurama. He only kept him at bay long enough so he could take control of his chakra. We're even implied this at the end of the fight, Kurama still had a lot of power left and was going to keep fighting but before that could happen Naruto put the seal back into place to keep Kurama in his place.

 

[LlamaGod1411]

@Burning, I'm not sure whether your first comment was replied to, but Amat beat the 3 headed dog due to hax and not AP.

 

[Lina_Shields]

We will leave this thread alone until Gwynbleiddd has completed his Naruto/Bleach revisions. But right now, thread needs to be closed.

Closing on user request?