Regarding Organization Profiles

[M3X_2.0]

Do they fit on Civilization or Team type of profiles?

I'm asking because I want to create a profile for The Hand organization and one for Court Of The Owls, both from Marvel and DC Comics.

Hand (Earth-616)

The Hand is a ninja clan and the current iteration of a pseudo-religious cabal worshiping the demon known as the Beast. The clan is made up of several different factions which are each led by a faction leader or chunin and overseen by a single supreme leader or jonin. Rank-and-file individual...

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Court of Owls

The Court of Owls is a shadowy organization runs Gotham City. They are servants of Barbatos, and use Talons as their agents. The Court was a major player across Batman titles, in the storylines The Court of Owls, Night of the Owls and The City of Owls. The Court of Owls was created by Scott...

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[M3X_2.0]

@Antvasima I think you could clarify that for me.

 

[Excellence616]

I think they fit in as Team

 

[Nierre]

^
You can make Team Profiles, not sure if that answers your question.

E.g. I'm sure an organization like Akatsuki or Kara from Naruto/Boruto would work for Team Profiles

 

[M3X_2.0]

The organizations I posted aren't like Akatsuki, but more like a civilization and a organization. They have bases, they have different leaders and such.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

You know what? I realized this wiki doesnt have pages for Hydra or AIM or HIVE maybe you should set a new kind for actual big organizations not just like Akatsuki that only had 15 members

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

As in like a cort organization, band of mercenaries, or league of assassins? They all seem to fall under teams.

 

[Chariot190]

As in like a cort organization, band of mercenaries, or league of assassins? They all seem to fall under teams.

Court of Owls is more of a secret society, composed of untold thousands of individuals at minimum, with bases all over the world in most major cities (Gotham, Metropolis, West City, New York, etc) that run shit behind the scenes, usually composed of upper class individuals and the rich, with group and sect leaders, rituals and more. Even having their own technology, medicines and practices.
Creating them as just a team would be like making the state of Florida a team.

They also have effectively their own military force in the Talons and what not, countless superhuman undead soldiers basically (Normal dudes don't fight, theyre usually just rich assholes).

 

[Antvasima]

I am honestly not certain what our standards are for this.

@Elizhaa @Mr._Bambu @Damage3245 @Dereck03 @Just_a_Random_Butler

What do you think?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Traditionalist in me screams civilization page, but like... by definition they are a lot closer to a team, so I suppose a team page would work more.

 

[M3X_2.0]

They’re not a team though, team profile would barely work

 

[Mr. Bambu]

They aren't a civilization either. An organization is closer to a team than a civilization. It is not a good fit for either but arguing the nitty gritty of semantics doesn't really interest me.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Brother chill out I’m not arguing semantics, a team profile for an entire organization like this doesn’t work, even if it’s closer to it than a civilization.

Court of Owls is more of a secret society, composed of untold thousands of individuals at minimum, with bases all over the world in most major cities (Gotham, Metropolis, West City, New York, etc) that run shit behind the scenes, usually composed of upper class individuals and the rich, with group and sect leaders, rituals and more. Even having their own technology, medicines and practices.
Creating them as just a team would be like making the state of Florida a team.

They also have effectively their own military force in the Talons and what not, countless superhuman undead soldiers basically (Normal dudes don't fight, theyre usually just rich assholes).

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Could you elaborate on what you mean? The teams format can accommodate those, I believe, unless I'm missin' something.

 

[The_Impress]

Organizations work better as a modified Civilization format, since Team format is far more oriented towards the concept that like, every member of the team are indexable, hence stuff like Durability and Lifting Strength and everything.

For a large number of non-descript characters Civilization format works better, it gets rids of alot of irrelevant fields and I think only a few fields need to be slightly reworded or dropped. That was kinda the notion of distinction there when I suggested the format

 

[M3X_2.0]

Could you elaborate on what you mean?

Chariot is writing a draft to show why team format doesn't work

 

[Mr. Bambu]

If you think it fits better, go nuts, idrc. I wasn't a fan of teams being introduced anyhow. Don't stress too much about it on my behalf.

 

[Antvasima]

Impress seems to make sense here. Thank you for helping out.

Should we clarify in our civilizations standard format page that organisations should also use this template/pattern?

 

[Just_a_Random_Butler]

Should we clarify in our civilizations standard format page that organisations should also use this template/pattern?

I know the thread's kind of dead, but was this ever done, or not? This seems really important.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Nope

 

[Antvasima]

Impress seems to make sense here. Thank you for helping out.

Should we clarify in our civilizations standard format page that organisations should also use this template/pattern?

I know the thread's kind of dead, but was this ever done, or not? This seems really important.

@ImmortalDread

Would you be willing to help out here please?

 

[ImmortalDread]

@ImmortalDread

Would you be willing to help out here please?

Sure

Standard Format for Civilization Profiles

Insert a Picture that represents the Civilization, preferably a banner or flag, or their Capital, or an Iconic Image in lack of a better option. Standard size is 400px aligned to the right A brief explanation and info summary of the Civilization and its history, structure, etc. Tier: The...

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A note like this would suffice: (Add Notes category for the page)

If you intend to establish a page for "organizations" within this fandom, kindly adhere to the Standard Format for Civilization Profiles template instead of using the team template. Organizations are better suited to a modified Civilization format, as the Team format primarily focuses on indexing individual team members and their attributes such as Durability and Lifting Strength.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you very much for helping out, ImmortalDread.

Are you willing to appropriately add that text to the following two pages please, @Just_a_Random_Butler ?

Standard Format for Civilization Profiles

Insert a Picture that represents the Civilization, preferably a banner or flag, or their Capital, or an Iconic Image in lack of a better option. Standard size is 400px aligned to the right A brief explanation and info summary of the Civilization and its history, structure, etc. Tier: The...

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Standard Format for Team Profiles

Insert a Picture that represents the team, preferably the entire roster, or an Iconic Image in lack of a better option. Standard size is 400px aligned to the right A brief explanation and info summary of the Team and its history, membership, etc. A list of the character profiles which are...

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[Just_a_Random_Butler]

Sure

Standard Format for Civilization Profiles

Insert a Picture that represents the Civilization, preferably a banner or flag, or their Capital, or an Iconic Image in lack of a better option. Standard size is 400px aligned to the right A brief explanation and info summary of the Civilization and its history, structure, etc. Tier: The...

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A note like this would suffice: (Add Notes category for the page)

Thank you very much for helping out, ImmortalDread.

Are you willing to appropriately add that text to the following two pages please, @Just_a_Random_Butler ?

Standard Format for Civilization Profiles

Insert a Picture that represents the Civilization, preferably a banner or flag, or their Capital, or an Iconic Image in lack of a better option. Standard size is 400px aligned to the right A brief explanation and info summary of the Civilization and its history, structure, etc. Tier: The...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Standard Format for Team Profiles

Insert a Picture that represents the team, preferably the entire roster, or an Iconic Image in lack of a better option. Standard size is 400px aligned to the right A brief explanation and info summary of the Team and its history, membership, etc. A list of the character profiles which are...

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I have applied the changes.

To avoid any potential confusion with actual Organizations or Team pages, I have put a new section titled "Additional Information" to mirror the header title used in the Characters Standard Format, instead of just "Note" as a title, as I think it could be mistakenly interpreted as a section applicable to Organizations or Team pages.

Is that alright? Or not?

 

[ImmortalDread]

It is fine! You may ask @Antvasima if he is also fine with it.

 

[Antvasima]

I think that it looks good. Thank you very much for helping out.

Should we close this thread now, or is there anything left to do here?

 

[ImmortalDread]

The changes have been applied, yes.

Thank you, @Just_a_Random_Butler for helping me out!

 

[Just_a_Random_Butler]

The purpose of the thread has been fulfilled, so I think it can be closed now.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you greatly to everybody who helped out here.