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Red vs Blue General Discussion
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I haven't watched the series, but I could evaluated different feats that I see.
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I'd prefer to ask Weekly or Everlasting; I know that one is technically the only canon fight in DB, but that doesn't mean it's without PIS or CIS given it's a different writer.
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Well, I just made Genkins' profile. Thoughts?
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The 5-A feat needs a calculation in a blog, but I don't doubt it could get such as yield destroying timelines is Low 2-C and unless they destroyed multiple at once which would be 2-C. Plus, it sounds like a chain reaction, which doesn't scale to Attack Potency. As for the speed, where does High Hypersonic come from? Outrunning bullets it Subsonic+ yes, but the justification for the combat speed seems unsourced. At the very least that sounds like an extremely casual Supersonic reaction speed since he made calculations in the time before a bullet could leave the muzzle. But we don't assume it's That much faster without a proper calculation. Also, we don't give Immeasurable speed to characters who can teleport to places that exist outside of time and space or who can travel through time. It would just be Low multiversal range with teleporters and/or time travel.
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5-A is me copying over the yield from an identical feat from RWBY. I've requested a calc for this specific feat, but no response as of yet.
Destroying a single timeline is Low 2-C, but the reach of Chrovos' time manipulation extends to every timeline that branches off from the beginning of the main timeline up to the original paradox (think a tree branch that's had the tip of it cut off, but the rest of it continues to sprout branches). Thus, at least 2-C based on on-screen feats.
As for High Hypersonic, I did an amateur-ish calc based on this feat. Epsilon is a fragment of a full A.I. and was already getting old at the time, yet he managed to perceive time at such a slow speed that he performed several calculations, made real-time estimates to success rate, looked up the attackers' medical histories, hacked into their weaponry to cause their aim to get worse, all while transferring who knows how many files to Carolina's data storage - all in the time it took for a bullet to leave the muzzle of a rifle.
Genkins is a product of far superior technology, and is a full A.I. with no need to worry about his processing speed being hampered by age, due to being immortal.
As for the Immeasurable speed, yeah I'll remove that.
Destroying a single timeline is Low 2-C, but the reach of Chrovos' time manipulation extends to every timeline that branches off from the beginning of the main timeline up to the original paradox (think a tree branch that's had the tip of it cut off, but the rest of it continues to sprout branches). Thus, at least 2-C based on on-screen feats.
As for High Hypersonic, I did an amateur-ish calc based on this feat. Epsilon is a fragment of a full A.I. and was already getting old at the time, yet he managed to perceive time at such a slow speed that he performed several calculations, made real-time estimates to success rate, looked up the attackers' medical histories, hacked into their weaponry to cause their aim to get worse, all while transferring who knows how many files to Carolina's data storage - all in the time it took for a bullet to leave the muzzle of a rifle.
Genkins is a product of far superior technology, and is a full A.I. with no need to worry about his processing speed being hampered by age, due to being immortal.
As for the Immeasurable speed, yeah I'll remove that.
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The 5-A feat is probably fine then given it's probably the exact same animation; and makes sense given it's the same animators. The Tier 2 thing still sounds a little vague, but I'll roll with it for now. But I'd prefer to here thoughts from someone like Weekly, Everlasting, or Bambu. Looking at the scene, it looks like it's just the AI's being able to operate while under timestop, and the bullet leaking out of the gun's muzzle looks like a warning that time stop is about to wear off. Perception =/= speed unless there's movement to go with it; and time stopping is hax. I think At least Supersonic sounds more reasonable at least for now. Though, his 5-A key could scale from his attack speed perhaps? It appears to be FTL for similar reasons to the God Brothers.
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A.I.s can't stop time. They perceive time at that speed all the time. Even Epsilon comments in that scene that time is a lot longer for him than it is for Carolina. It's also not listed as combat speed, just reactions/perception.
The only A.I. capable of time stop is Chrovos. The closest thing otherwise is Gamma with Wyoming's time distortion unit, which has a limited and imperfect control over time.
The only A.I. capable of time stop is Chrovos. The closest thing otherwise is Gamma with Wyoming's time distortion unit, which has a limited and imperfect control over time.
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I didn't say the AIs were stopping time, but couldn't Agent Carolina stop time? Or was that The Meta? But I was thinking the AIs resisted time stop though.
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Ah, I see. But I would still prefer if a calc group member did a calc for the AI speeds rather than assuming High Hypersonic
