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Re Zero Discussion Thread: Season 4 is Real
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Zabazab
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Any of the Four Greats low-diff Lye. Anchorless Zarestia was already beyond either the White Whale or Gluttony. Even being super-generous and saying Lye has a chance at beating an upper Divine General like Olbart, it still doesn't put him up there with Eugard, let alone Halibel. Halibel being relative to Cecilus while Eugard is relative to Halibel also means Lye is completely outmatched in speed. It's Gluttony's main weakness: a stat-stomp. Best Lye could do is flee with Leaper, but Roy would get himself killed.
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Saying that Anchorless Zarestia is above Lye and gluttony in general based off a statement from Ricardo who has never seen Roy or Lye go all out is exactly what I’d expect from someone who doesn’t know what an argument from ignorance is. But also, Lye literally CAN’T be stat stomped, this is the whole reason Ram makes use of Wind magic combined with her physical capabilities even up until 5 shackles because of the fact that if she used raw stats, Lye could deal with it.
There is no evidence that Halibel is comparable to Cecilus in combat speed, nor is there evidence that Halibel, Eugard or even Cecilus could stat stomp Lye, but then again, you don’t know what an argument from ignorance is so what can I expect.
VortechsTG
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Are you trying to imply that Ley, with merged eclipse no less, is in any way shape or form comparable to the white whale?
"Super generous" ????? There is literally a direct scaling chain between them that places him, with only lunar eclipse, above Olbart in terms of stats alone at least.
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Lye is capable of dealing with 5 shackles Ram if she used pure stats in Lunar eclipse, Reid level opponents are needed to stat diff him, and even then Lye is implied to not be seriously putting effort because he gets “knocked out” and comes back unharmed.
Genuinely what does Olbart have over Lye? Shaula, who is only 1 step below Cecilus (so around Arakiya with Muspel) level, lost to Lye with home field advantage
Fezzih_007
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Why Lye would hold back against Cecilus? Facing against the strongest on Volachia, I don't see reason for him to do that.
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Because it’s an easier way for him to let Cecilus let his guard down and eat his name and memories, it’s more entertaining to him etc. I’d need to remind you that Lye before he is a combat genius is a sin archbishopWhy Lye would hold back against Cecilus? Facing against the strongest on Volachia, I don't see reason for him to do that.
VortechsTG
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The famous "home field advantage" that is being indoors in close range as a sniper. So true.
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Yo don’t act like those hallways are close range, plus she used her hells snipe just fine in her scorpion form
Fezzih_007
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How exactly?
Cecilus is the fastest person on the world and have strenght compared to Reinhard. In what situation holding back would let him to eat Cecilus Memories? He can react to whenever Lye would try to, due to his speed.
How?
True, but he also values being alive, right? He gonna face the Guy comparable to Reinhard, and hold his strenght back?
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Elsa does this to him IIRC to assassinate some guy Cecilus was protecting
Being able to react to things quickly whilst on guard is a lot different compared to whilst off guard especially when combined with leaper and Lye’s Shinobi techniques
Ironically he does that to Reid so yh
UrongSygn1
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What if Cecilus is sonic's Human-sona?
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No. I'm saying he's below Anchorless Zarestia. And don't underestimate the White Whale in terms of sheer brute strength, even if in the grand schemevof things it's shockingly weak.
Super-generous not in stats, but in "what Tappei meant when he said Lye may or may not defeat Divine Generals". The Divine Generals aren't neatly ordered by strength but 1-3 definitely deserve their spots compared to the rest. Beating Olbart is a very generous interpretation when it could be referring to Goz, Groovy, Madelyn. Not to say they're weak, they're just no Olbart.
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UrongSygn1
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Why doesnt Lye just get a job instead of looking like a hobo
UrongSygn1
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Minor my ass he talks like a drunk uncle
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I woke up to war and instantly felt like listening to this peak again. One of the toughest osts of all time imo
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Shadow Saint Vs Sword Saint
Sunless Vs Reinhard Saint/Transcendent Sunless key Vs Reinhard with Dragon sword Speed is equalized In-character Starting distance of 400 meters. Sunny can use his shadows. SBA Sunless: Reinhard: Incon:
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“Yeah he says he could beat the divine generals except Cecilus, but what he means is he couldn’t beat Olbart and Arakiya too, he just forgot to mention it, oh and he says divine generals except Cecilus instead of “some divine generals” of no reason, he definitely isn’t speaking of the group as a whole”
Also, it’s stated.
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