Re Zero Discussion Thread: Season 4 is Real

[SatellaTheWoE]

What the hell? No?!??!?

good, because ezzo is better than roswaal in yin magic apparently, so she is by default better than roswaal in yin magic (atleast according to this logic)

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

When I look at any of the isekai series from isekai quartet in this forum the only ones that are up to date are rezero and overlord. The others are pretty outdated or not that well done which is a shame.

I was sent an up to date sandbox of the Konosuba profiles and they look awesome

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Do you think a cat is stronger than a lion?

 

[MrTayman616]

Bro wth, new messages every second. My notifications can't keep up.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

When I look at any of the isekai series from isekai quartet in this forum the only ones that are up to date are rezero and overlord. The others are pretty outdated or not that well done which is a shame.

you wont believe this but we are technically extremely outdated too because of the sheer content tappei keeps putting out

 

[Crimsonobu]

I was sent an up to date sandbox of the Konosuba profiles and they look awesome

No way, that's cool. Excited for new match ups with the new profiles then. Let me know when they come out!

 

[Zabazab]

because ezzo is better than roswaal in yin magic apparently

No he is not.

 

[Huesito88]

Bro wth, new messages every second. My notifications can't keep up.

Your notifications box can't adapt fast enough

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

No he is not.

which is why i am wondering why roswaal doesnt have gray

 

[Zabazab]

which is why i am wondering why roswaal doesnt have gray

"Gray" is not an actual title, it's mockery of Ezzo since he doesn't excel in any magic attribute, which he then claimed for himself.

 

[MrTayman616]

Your notifications box can't adapt fast enough

I'm still not bald enough

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

For Beako, yeah. Aqua has a statistical limit to her magic resistance though. You could argue that this would suggest that Minya should bypass it no matter what or you could argue it would just depend on the scale and refinement of the magic in which case Beako still comes out on top with ease by being comparable to Roswaal.

The first one doesn’t work because thats dura neg vs physical durability and not magic vs magic. That doesn’t give a meter.

The second one works but simply saying comparable to Roswaal doesn’t mean much because it’s the equivalent of me saying Aqua is a goddess. They’re all high level magic users.

 

[VortechsTG]

which is why i am wondering why roswaal doesnt have gray

For starters, because 'gray' is not a real title. It's a mocking name Ezzo was called. But black and white are not taken up because there simply isn't someone who specializes in them to the extent of the other four, and there aren't really enough powerful Yin and Yang magicians to have a competition to begin with. They would just go to Roswaal by default even though he doesn't use them a whole lot.

 

[VortechsTG]

The second one works but simply saying comparable to Roswaal doesn’t mean much because it’s the equivalent of me saying Aqua is a goddess. They’re all high level magic users.

Fym it doesn't work? Roswaal simply outscales her. I'm not comparing apples to oranges, I'm making a direct observation that she would be ******* erased by Roswaal’s magic despite her resistance.

 

[Crimsonobu]

Since everyone is active here now is the best time to ask. Do you think there should be any priority for characters, calc, series wide revision, and etc?

Petra, Ezzo, Julius are characters I am working on right now.

 

[Crimsonobu]

Fym it doesn't work? Roswaal simply outscales her. I'm not comparing apples to oranges, I'm making a direct observation that she would be ******* erased by Roswaal’s magic despite her resistance.

I think it's because Aqua is 6B and so is Roswaal that Castoria may be saying that?

Edit: Castoria. I'm so fate brain rotted. I meant Castorice.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Fym it doesn't work? Roswaal simply outscales her. I'm not comparing apples to oranges, I'm making a direct observation that she would be ******* erased by Roswaal’s magic despite her resistance.

Aqua is 6-B?

 

[Trxyway]

I was sent an up to date sandbox of the Konosuba profiles and they look awesome

Does the verse have a slight chance against a 60% Meili now?

 

[VortechsTG]

I think it's because Aqua is 6B and so is Roswaal that Castoria may be saying that?

Okay, but Roswaal upscales way beyond that value whereas Aqua needs a magical item just to get to it.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Okay, but Roswaal upscales way beyond that value whereas Aqua needs a magical item just to get to it.

What key for Aqua and what value are we talking for Roswaal because that brother is 6-C

 

[VortechsTG]

What key for Aqua and what value are we talking for Roswaal because that brother is 6-C

Roswaal's profile is out of date unfortunately 🕊

 

[Crimsonobu]

Okay, but Roswaal upscales way beyond that value whereas Aqua needs a magical item just to get to it.

6-B is Aqua's base? It works the other way where throughout the series her full power are restricted as a goddess. So the keys 9c, 8b, 8C are sealed power keys.

 

[VortechsTG]

6-B is Aqua's base? It works the other way where throughout the series her full power are restricted as a goddess. So the keys 9c, 8b, 8C are sealed power keys.

So, I feel like we need to reorientate ourselves around the fact that we are talking about this because of the video, where she is with Kazuma on a quest in her first key. But maybe it isn't super crazy to have her tank Minya with her scarf.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Planning on making that 2VS2 match so I made this CRT lol

Small Konosuba CRT

Saw Subaru from Re: Zero having Beatrice as his optional equipment so I want to try something Kazuma before being reincarnated to a new world was given an option to pick a power or weapon/gear to bring into the new world Kazuma proceeds to literally pick Aqua as his literal weapon for the new...

vsbattles.com

 

[Crimsonobu]

So, I feel like we need to reorientate ourselves around the fact that we are talking about this because of the video, where she is with Kazuma on a quest in her first key. But maybe it isn't super crazy to have her tank Minya with her scarf.

Completely forgot about the video. Whoops.

 

[Zabazab]

Petra, Ezzo, Julius are characters I am working on right now.

I have Rem and Satella sandboxes that are pretty much ready for shipping, I'll make their CRTs after Puck. I also have Alter who doesn't need a CRT to have his page made.

I also have a close-to-completion sandboxes for the Sin Archbishops, Ram, and Volcanica. Working on Subaru, Roswaal, or Echidna scares me so I just look at their sandboxes and grimace.

Crusch needs to stop being cool this arc or I might end up revising her too.

Do you think there should be any priority for characters, calc, series wide revision, and etc?

Something something Arakiya tanked Cecilus's attack better than Mezoreia who was only KOd by Garf's punch, meaning the Four Greats tiers scale to Garf (we know in our hearts Garf is getting smoked by any of the Four Greats).

There's also a tier 6 feat or two in arc 9. Alter's breath is like island level, while Al Quintet's failed activation is probably a few teratons.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Since everyone is active here now is the best time to ask. Do you think there should be any priority for characters, calc, series wide revision, and etc?

Petra, Ezzo, Julius are characters I am working on right now.

Petra>Julius>Ezzo in terms of priority

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Also if we’re scaling Beatrice’s magic to Roswaal’s magic, why doesn’t she have a 6-C magic rating like him

 

[Crimsonobu]

Planning on making that 2VS2 match so I made this CRT lol

Small Konosuba CRT

Saw Subaru from Re: Zero having Beatrice as his optional equipment so I want to try something Kazuma before being reincarnated to a new world was given an option to pick a power or weapon/gear to bring into the new world Kazuma proceeds to literally pick Aqua as his literal weapon for the new...

vsbattles.com

See I don't understand how Subaru match ups are supposed to go because in normal SBA conditions he's blood lusted and intended to win at all cost. That mindset is just gonna give him an Arc 8 mentality and as long as the opponent isn't in stomp tier then he's winning no?

Stomp or be stopmed.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Also if we’re scaling Beatrice’s magic to Roswaal’s magic, why doesn’t she have a 6-C magic rating like him

her magic doesn't have a lot of firepower and is mostly dura negation

 

[Crimsonobu]

Crusch needs to stop being cool this arc or I might end up revising her too.

This guy knows I haven't read arc 10 and flaunts at how cool a character he knows I like is. Just kill me man

 

[VortechsTG]

Crusch needs to stop being cool this arc or I might end up revising her too.

Crusch has always been cool but I suspect there's a lot more to come so it would be best to hold off for now

Something something Arakiya tanked Cecilus's attack better than Mezoreia who was only KOd by Garf's punch, meaning the Four Greats tiers scale to Garf (we know in our hearts Garf is getting smoked by any of the Four Greats).

Isn't this just because of Arakiya's regeneration or am I forgetting something?

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

her magic doesn't have a lot of firepower and is mostly dura negation

Then measuring magic level cross verse via the Magic’s AP might be cooked then if 2 people with comparable magic proficiency doesn’t have comparable Magic AP.

 

[VortechsTG]

Also if we’re scaling Beatrice’s magic to Roswaal’s magic, why doesn’t she have a 6-C magic rating like him

Because it's more about refinement and mana content than actual raw power. Her magic explicitly isn't very destructive in fact. But it is still equal to Roswaal's generally speaking.

 

[Crimsonobu]

Anyway characters that I am working on are

New profile
Ezzo
Mimi

Updating them
Petra
Julius
Todd
Ferris
All of Felt camp (asides from Reinhard)

 

[Crimsonobu]

Does Vincent deserve a page?

Chisha is getting one but Azumuku IF is what's being waited one.

 

[Zabazab]

Isn't this just because of Arakiya's regeneration or am I forgetting something?

I refer to when Muspel was in control and kid Ceci got stat-diffed. On some "my speed is greater so I'm sure to win".

At that moment, Al had a vision of, without exaggeration, a thunderclap and the sky being torn asunder.

In fact, it was not a vision, but rather the shockwave from Cecilus’s karate chop that went out from behind him, tearing a clinching blow into a group of buildings that were on the verge of collapse, leading to the collapse of the entire area.

But, however, Arakiya had received that karate chop in question.

Arakiya: [――――]

Glaring, her blood-red eyes moved to look at Cecilus, who was just a few feet away.

Despite receiving a powerful karate chop to the forehead, Arakiya maintained her body in mid-air without even showing the slightest tremor, and in return, she raised her wings of Magic Crystal――,

Arakiya: [――――]

Immediately after those thin lips produced a faint sound, a blow fatally gouged Cecilus.

 

[VortechsTG]

I refer to when Muspel was in control and kid Ceci got stat-diffed. On some "my speed is greater so I'm sure to win".

Okay, I see what you mean. I'm not saying she'd lose to him but I don't think she could do this to Garfiel. And I don't really think what kid Cecilus does to Mezoreia is comparable to what Garfiel did either. Garfiel temporarily paralyzed it with a single blow. He simply outclassed Mezoreia. Like, you wouldn't consider a human being wall level for surviving a car crash with serious injuries. But maybe in a roundabout way you can say that the complete no-sell from Arakiya is evidence that she too should similarly outclass Mezoreia and thus be comparable to Garfiel?

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

@Zabazab Whats the next crt after Puck

 

[Zabazab]

Whats the next crt after Puck

Remu or Satera

But maybe in a roundabout way you can say that the complete no-sell from Arakiya is evidence that she too should similarly outclass Mezoreia and thus be comparable to Garfiel?

Yeah, the argument is that Arakiya can no-sell Cecilus's attacks while Mezoreia cannot, meaning Arakiya is tankier than Mezoreia who got KOd by Garf instead of turned into red rain.

Also thinking about whether Melakuera's divided existence implies an exact minimun multiplier for Star Beastification, but I doubted it since Sphinx's divided bodies are equal and share mana reserves.