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Re Zero Discussion Thread: Season 4 is Real

did you not read arc 9
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You could just explain what I said that is wrong, you know?
Pacifist Frisk not gonna kill Al to trigger Agressor
If is about this.
Yeah, I know Frisk don't need to kill Al to trigger Agressor.

But since its stated Al don't like using It on people, and the only times It has activated is after he died multiple times, a scenario where he activelly made use of It, without him being killed even once is low.

I trought that don't need explaining. But if is not about that, I would like to hear what mistake I made about this, I will admit I wrong about It.
 
You could just explain what I said that is wrong, you know?

If is about this.
Yeah, I know Frisk don't need to kill Al to trigger Agressor.

But since its stated Al don't like using It on people, and the only times It has activated is after he died multiple times, a scenario where he activelly made use of It, without him being killed even once is low.

I trought that don't need explaining. But if is not about that, I would like to hear what mistake I made about this, I will admit I wrong about It.
Aggressor is a passive hax that activates when Al gives up on using his domain, it will continue looping and there is no way to escape it once it's activated, whether you kill him, yourself, run away or do anything. It does not matter. Al, at the end, uses it on everyone, and not just the men, but the women and the children too. The only person who can end it is Al himself, and from his pov his opponents just get mind broken the instant he stops using his domain
 
Aggressor is a passive hax that activates when Al gives up on using his domain, it will continue looping and there is no way to escape it once it's activated, whether you kill him, yourself, run away or do anything. It does not matter. Al, at the end, uses it on everyone, and not just the men, but the women and the children too. The only person who can end it is Al himself, and from his pov his opponents just get mind broken the instant he stops using his domain
Ah I see now the issue. I think I already cover that.
Aldebaran:
Aldebaran: [Tch.]
At the arrival of a chance that could have been described as being rescued from the brink of death, or as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, Aldebaran did not welcome it.
As mentioned previously, the occurrence of the bug was unrelated to Aldebaran’s volition―― at the very least, it was not something he actively invoked. Thus, the activation of the bug was something Aldebaran took no joy in.
Once again, he heard the Witch’s voice.
As soon as he did, the subsequent bug was activated, and another body hit the ground.
That was difficult for Aldebaran. It was painful. Unbearable. ――The mental abrasion produced by the Territory’s bug, the fact that it sometimes would beget an outcome more repulsive than Death of the body, was something Aldebaran had come to learn in his days since waking up on the Gladiator Island.
Hence, Aldebaran did not desire any such unintended conclusions to be brought about by the Territory’s bug――,
Don't like using the Agressos due to what It does to people. Agressor in most of the cases, is activated when Al died multiple times against a opponent, and doubts his authority. Against the gladiator Island people, Leip, Yae, some assasins send to kill Priscila, and the Aldeburster.
He only starts using the Agressor willingly is after:
  • He died 7.011 against the Aldeburster
  • He's fighting against Petra, who can compress his troughts to cause agonize mental exhaustion
  • Felt and the Aldeburster start trashtalking him, plus some compression, to make his mental exhaustion even words, and angering him.
So unless Aldebaran is push to the limit like that, In-character the chances of him willingly using the Agressor on someone is low.
Well, the argument above is useless, If you guys want to use Bloodlust Aldebaran, or the Aldebaran that faced the Aldeburster. In that case, yeah Agressor would be his first move. I arguing that normally, he wouldn't use It.

Since we not in a versus thread for Frisk vs Aldebaran, I not gonna discuss the Topic.
 
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Hello, good people

Be known that i tried to submit Luffy, failed, and put our dear Emilia in the tournament above, if anyone wants to help me argue for her side whenever her matches come over, it'd be very welcome
 
After being reset and not reset and crt, I figure this should come back to attention again.
 
Hey, i've been wanting to get Springtrap/Purple guy an L but it's quite hard to find a mf that can adapt to his stuff or tank it
y'all think we can use Subaru to smash his ass? or would it be a stomp for any side?
 
very hard to kill and soul+mind hax
I think I gonna need a more elaboration on his Immo.

Well, Subaru is stronger and faster, so Afton is not killing him easy and Subaru can attack with his whip from a distance. With Beatrice he can summon a "Black Hole" to BFR him.

Beatrice (currently) don't resist any mind hax from Afton, so Subaru is probally doing this alone. How It works again?
Memory Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, Sealing & Power Nullification (Eleanor could trap her victims' spirits in memories[8] and in the Ball Pit.[17] Jake could trap Eleanor in his worst memory, covering and completely incapacitating her.[17] The One You Shouldn't Have Killed trapped Afton's spirit in the "prison" of UCN, which reduced him to a state without all of his abilities[21])
Like, can him touch someone and the above happens?
 
Like, can him touch someone and the above happens?
Never shown, but should respect some conditions, like the only example I know, The One You Shouldn't Have Killed stood trying to get Afton's ass for more than 20 years but whenever he got burned by Henry Emily's plans he got into a custom infinite hell instead of properly dying

The rest idk 100%
 
Play Ball.
 
Royal Candidates and knights by intelligence imo:
Anastasia > Priscilla ≈ Felt > Crusch >> Emilia
Aldebaran > Ferris > Subaru ≈ Julius > Reinhard
Does Ferris have enough feats to throw julius/subaru? I doubt that tbh
Agree on everything but Priscilla >= Anastasia
Priscilla also has supernatural luck + intuition, in comparison Ana has better intelligence feats
 
Subaru ≈ Julius > Reinhard
wait, WHAT?
i feel worse now for not being able to find the volumes i need to properly read the novel physically, cuz now i gotta understand how's Subaru smarter than the craziest biggest baddest mf
 
wait, WHAT?
i feel worse now for not being able to find the volumes i need to properly read the novel physically, cuz now i gotta understand how's Subaru smarter than the craziest biggest baddest mf
I think it kinda just depends on what form of intelligence you are talking about. Reinhard is mainly bad with people skills. I'm not sure I would agree he is less intelligent overall.
 
That appears to be the argument of our colleague, may i hear your counterargument for it?
Well there's the obvious battle iq feats but also just the fact that he is good at pretty much everything, with or without divine protections. And I think it's unclear exactly how much his "intuition" counts, because, sure, you could say it's just supernatural, but then we don't know how good he would be without it. And it's a part of him anyway. Shouldn't it count?
 
Well there's the obvious battle iq feats but also just the fact that he is good at pretty much everything, with or without divine protections. And I think it's unclear exactly how much his "intuition" counts, because, sure, you could say it's just supernatural, but then we don't know how good he would be without it. And it's a part of him anyway. Shouldn't it count?
Can't we just use the QnA where it says Reinhard's iq is average?
 
Does Ferris have enough feats to throw julius/subaru? I doubt that tbh

Priscilla also has supernatural luck + intuition, in comparison Ana has better intelligence feats
I do believe Anastasia is better in logical thinking but Priscilla has really good feats and even in the narrative Vincent admits inferiority to her in every capacity as well as Lamia says Priscilla is smarter. Vincent is the same dude who can memorise every soldier in Vollachian army!
 
Anyone got ideas for re:zero vs naruto match ups? two verses having sub-rel 7-B's seems like a rare occurrence

Was thinking about Hidan vs Elsa. I'm pretty sure Hidan doesn't have a wincon but it's just funny imagining the sadomasochist finding about the Jashin Ritual
 
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Yae vs Sakura could be neat

Or Yae vs Sasori (dude has to fight another pink haired Shinobi)
 
Been reading stuff, here's what i got so far
I think I gonna need a more elaboration on his Immo.
his type 2's statement indicates that he's quite tanky and even dismemberment is not enough for killing him (type 2's at the low-tier remnant page, and the one we're using (3rd key) is at peak tier, so he should be even tankier than that)
Apparently the only way to properly end him is if Subaru can get him to lose his agony, since Peak-Tier isn't weak to fire or heat anymore, or if somehow Subaru can dismember him, because their heal is painfully slow

Like, can him touch someone and the above happens?
idek if Afton can use this, cuz if he could this would make getting rid of his enemies quite simple
also, as i've said before, this seems to only be activable in certain conditions, cuz TOYSHK did it to Afton after wanting to avenge its own death for more than 20 years

How It works again?
Whenever on an 1v1 situation, Springtrap could call for a ghost and use illusions to torture, get close and brutalize
he's very very good at creating illusions and hides very well, so his bet will be to try and hide to surprise and kill Subaru before he can understand what's going on

The result of this battle will be defined by when is Subaru able to brutalize Springtrap, because talk no jutsu is highly unlikely to work this time
 
The result of this battle will be defined by when is Subaru able to brutalize Springtrap, because talk no jutsu is highly unlikely to work this
Well okay then.

Killing Subaru don't help Afton, It just gonna trigger Return By Death, and Subaru now know more about Afton.

Subaru with Beatrice, can do this using Minya, If Springtrap have no Regeneration abilities, he just dies. Is a stomp with Beatrice.

If is Subaru alone, It depends on the fight location, but he probally could still win with Infinite retries. Springtrap have no way to kill Subaru, he would need to Incap him somehow.
 
Whenever on an 1v1 situation, Springtrap could call for a ghost and use illusions to torture, get close and brutalize
he's very very good at creating illusions and hides very well, so his bet will be to try and hide to surprise and kill Subaru before he can understand what's going on

The result of this battle will be defined by when is Subaru able to brutalize Springtrap, because talk no jutsu is highly unlikely to work this time
That's it though? Subaru just has to power through the illusions after getting used to them and dismember him to win? That sounds like a stomp in his favor.
 
If is Subaru alone, It depends on the fight location, but he probally could still win with Infinite retries. Springtrap have no way to kill Subaru, he would need to Incap him somehow.
Well, then if he's alone we could argue that Afton has a chance and just doesn't win because he's a cruel prick lol
therefore not a stomp :>

That's it though? Subaru just has to power through the illusions after getting used to them and dismember him to win? That sounds like a stomp in his favor.
Well, how fast Springtrap kills someone is really dependent on his mood and for sure seeing a boy reacting to his stuff will change his usual course of action

But Subaru would have to detect his stealthy ass (not an easy task) and take the decision to dismember him or find another way to perma incap, which afaik is not that easy for him
 
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