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Can Beelzebub really resist quantum manipulation? Also sleep inducement exists since it doesn't count as something harmful to GodsHow does Raiden get past the whole invul thing?
If its made by mortals I don't see why not. Though should wait for some supporters I don't read rorCan Beelzebub really resist quantum manipulation?
Going by the Sub-rel being 0.026c and him getting a 10x speed increase with Blade mode and ripper, he'd be 0.26c. So he'd still be slower since Bel's above 0.33cWhat about raiden blitzing with speed amps?
So do you think Bel would win as he can hit Raiden first via being slightly faster?Going by the Sub-rel being 0.026c and him getting a 10x speed increase with Blade mode and ripper, he'd be 0.26c. So he'd still be slower since Bel's above 0.33c
You can watch this video then as it showcase Bel's full fight with TeslaI haven't read ror or Bel's fights so I don't know what he does to start, but Raiden should still be able to dodge via his senses being comparable.
0.36c actually, Custom Body > Early game, you could argue it would be higher given Sam should be > Early game peak speed (aka 10x, not 2x, which would make custom RM 0.9c), but at minimum it'd be 2x. Raiden can obv get higher via different weapons like the machete.Going by the Sub-rel being 0.026c and him getting a 10x speed increase with Blade mode and ripper, he'd be 0.26c. So he'd still be slower since Bel's above 0.33c
That feels like a no limits fallacy since nothing in RoR is shown to work on that scale.If its made by mortals I don't see why not. Though should wait for some supporters I don't read ror
Idk, if the gods are simply made different then it makes it more understandable. And if that isn’t the case, which is likely, this becomes a stomp for Raiden.That feels like a no limits fallacy since nothing in RoR is shown to work on that scale.
Hm you voting for Beelze then?Beelzebub just surrounds himself in a vibration sphere and destroys Raiden from the inside out by standing there.
Well Raiden is slightly faster and has sleep inducementIt's a stomp. Beelzebub is over 7 times stronger, and can surround himself in vibrations that lack the physical matter for Raiden's blade to dura neg to begin with.
All Beelzebub has to do is flex his aura and Raiden's disassembled from the inside out.
Hm either we wait for more Metal gear supporters here or we try make it more fair via speed equalized and restrict Raiden's speed ampsHe's slightly faster with weapons and amps. Otherwise, Beelzebub is 12 times faster. Chances are he blitzes before Raiden even thinks about activating Blade Mode.
Increase the starting distance to 200 metersHm either we wait for more Metal gear supporters here or we try make it more fair via speed equalized and restrict Raiden's speed amps
@Chariot190 thoughts?Speed equalized, Raiden's speed amps can't be accessed because he can't win against a normally faster opponent according to the rules of speed equal.
This just makes whoever has range better.Increase the starting distance to 200 meters
Actually, no. The match only can't be added.Speed equalized, Raiden's speed amps can't be accessed because he can't win against a normally faster opponent according to the rules of speed equal.
Raiden literally resists quantum level vibration hax whatvibration hax killing Raiden
All before Raiden touches the dude once with long ranged weapons like Dystopia?Guess he's getting killed five times in a row.
Yeah? I said Dystopia, it has the funny quantum dura neg too.Depends on a few factors, ig. The severity of the wounds Raiden's nanopaste lets him endure, and if his long ranged weapons have dura neg.
(Double posting cause you edited this in)Also 7x isnt a one shot gap,
I said that because of the Type 2 Immortality and cyborg physiology?(Double posting cause you edited this in)
Figured the gap may have changed from 7.5, but wasn't sure. What's the new gap?
8x(Double posting cause you edited this in)
Figured the gap may have changed from 7.5, but wasn't sure. What's the new gap?
Dont know why you're acting like this would be something obvious to me.Yeah? I said Dystopia, it has the funny quantum dura neg too.
Again, this is not obvious, at all. Adding a question mark doesn't make it so.said that because of the Type 2 Immortality and cyborg physiology?
Does the profile not elaborate on any of his weapons?Dont know why you're acting like this would be something obvious to me.
I mean, it should be, if I talk about how cyborgs have type 2 immortality and wacky physiology, and then say nah 7x ain't enough here in the same breath, that should be common sense no?Again, this is not obvious, at all. Adding a question mark doesn't make it so.
Because he doesn't need to land a hit with the borderline heatseeking long ranged weapon he doesn't even need physical contact with because he uses magnetism to control it that also has quantum dura neg?Anyways, even if he survives a fatal blow, I don't really see how that helps him. If he's blown to bits or severely deformed, then he's not fighting anywhere near full effectiveness, even if hes technically alive.
I haven't taken time to look at the profile thoroughly beyond his powers, stats and intelligence and the like. Not everyone will, most people won't, all you have to do is just answer the question without being snobby.Does the profile not elaborate on any of his weapons?
All Beelzebub has to do to circumvent this is just raise his staff a bit and flex his vibrations to simply blow the weapons away.Because he doesn't need to land a hit with the borderline heatseeking long ranged weapon he doesn't even need physical contact with because he uses magnetism to control it that also has quantum dura neg?
It doesn't have to blow him instantly to bits to do severe damage or partially deform him. Whether he's in bits after one hit or after a couple of hits really doesn't change the outcome.the gap only being 7x isn't even enough to blow him to bits anyway so the nanopaste is free gagame.