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Raiden Downgrade (Genshin Impact) — 1 more Staff Vote (STAFF IS NEEDED)

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Can you recap your current positions on the matter?
My current position is

1. Leyline is CM2 as it is stated to be a conceptual network that governs the world of Genshin (detail explanation require supporters of the verse i guess)

2. Anyone can use the Leyline get full-blown CM2, in case someone need a medium to use Leyline, they will get Limited CM2 due to having limited way to access the Leyline and its abilities
 
My current position is

1. Leyline is CM2 as it is stated to be a conceptual network that governs the world of Genshin (detail explanation require supporters of the verse i guess)

2. Anyone can use the Leyline get full-blown CM2, in case someone need a medium to use Leyline, they will get Limited CM2 due to having limited way to access the Leyline and its abilities
1: This is fine.
2: CM2 via using Leylines is fine.
 
What else is needed?
The CRT is already applied to be honest, like the CM1 being removed from its original page and adding the "Limited" label onto the CM2 unless if you agree with the rest too other than the concepts, in which the stuff like IM2 or other things like the fundamental stuff just isn't fundamental in nature at all because it pertains to Teyvat only like the one I said earlier instead of reality altogether but that's it yeah.

Puppet is going to rework the Elemental Manipulation page anyway and remove the things that shouldn't be there in the first place, which was in-line with what I was trying to do after this. That one would be discussed when he finishes the project I assume.
 
??? Since when was it not approved.
You put "Limited" to the CM2 while Vietthai was never said he agree for it being limited. He only said it is limited FOR THOSE who needs something to access Ley Lines and therefore they got limited access to the Ley Lines, but not for them who can manipulate Ley Lines freely and have full access of it. So this doesn't mean the it's limited in general.
2. Anyone can use the Leyline get full-blown CM2, in case someone need a medium to use Leyline, they will get Limited CM2 due to having limited way to access the Leyline and its abilities
 
You put "Limited" to the CM2 while Vietthai was never said he agree for it being limited. He only said it is limited FOR THOSE who needs something to access Ley Lines and therefore they got limited access to the Ley Lines, but not for them who can manipulate Ley Lines freely and have full access of it. So this doesn't mean the it's limited in general.
YOU LITERALLY ADDED CM1 BACK DESPITE ALL OF THE 3 STAFF AGREEING THAT IT SHOULD BE REMOVED.
 
You put "Limited" to the CM2 while Vietthai was never said he agree for it being limited. He only said it is limited FOR THOSE who needs something to access Ley Lines and therefore they got limited access to the Ley Lines, but not for them who can manipulate Ley Lines freely and have full access of it. So this doesn't mean the it's limited in general.
And only Firestorm agreed with the removal of Conceptual Manipulation, which should actually have been changed to Type 2. No one else on staff addressed Ei's Conceptual Manipulation.
 
Oke what the hell, why my name is mentioned again lol?

What is the vote tally?
 
Oke what the hell, why my name is mentioned again lol?

What is the vote tally?
Well apparently he applied something that never any mods agree with; he applied "Limited CM2" to the Ley Lines based on your words. While your words never seems to agree for the Ley Lines being limited, and it is only limited for those who needs something to access ley lines, so therefore they have limited access to the ley lines. But not limited for those who can freely manipulate it and have free access, so this doesn't mean the CM2 from the Ley lines is Limited in General. Even Firestorm agreed that the CM2 is fine for the Ley Lines and not Limited.
 
Oke what the hell, why my name is mentioned again lol?

What is the vote tally?
Basically 3, iirc you, FinePoint and Firestorm agreed with CM2 being limited for those who required mediums of it (which is the one on the Ley Lines Manipulation page)

Firestorm agreed with the CM1 removal because there's simply no concept being manipulated whatsoever, I don't see anyone having contentions to that either so like
 
Basically 3, iirc you, FinePoint and Firestorm agreed with CM2 being limited for those who required mediums of it (which is the one on the Ley Lines Manipulation page)
That doesn't mean the CM2 is limited in general buddy. In fact, theres more people who have free access to the Ley Lines than those who have limited access.
 
The one on Ley Lines Manipulation is Limited.
No ☠️
Again, it is limited for those who have limited access for it like the abyssal sibling.
Someones like the Heavenly Principles and the four shades can freely manipulate the Ley Lines whenever they wants and don't need any devices or something elses to access the Ley Lines.
 
No ☠️
Again, it is limited for those who have limited access for it like the abyssal sibling.
Someone like the Heavenly Principles can freely manipulate the Ley Lines whenever they wants and don't need any devices or something elses to access the Ley Lines.
AND DOES THAT MEAN EVERYONE IS ABLE TO MANIPULATE LEY LINES LIKE THE HEAVENLY PRINCIPLES NOW? NO.
 
What about this?
 
1. Heavenly Principles
2. Four Shades
3. Dragons
4. Angels
5. Archons
Archons required a medium. Zhongli isn't even able to manipulate the Ley Lines back in 4.4 Lantern Rite which endangered Hu Tao and it required the Traveler to do something first before manipulating the Ley Line and stabilizing it
 
Only Firestorm evaluated it?
 
What about this?
This CRT still lacks votes to be implemented but it has been implemented, moreover no one discussed raiden's cm1 except firestrom, leyline was fully approved as cm2, but modified it to be limited and it was brought back again, I think this is the discussion
 
I don’t really care about the CM1 issue with Raiden, but Leyline cannot be turned into a limited category, because manipulation of the Leyline is still fully recognized as CM2. What becomes limited is when a character needs a specific method, tool, or intermediary to manipulate the Leyline. In that case, the character only receives Limited CM2 via Leyline. Therefore, the LIMITED label should be stated in the character profile, not on the Leyline page.
 
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