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Ragyō Kiryüin vs Dante (Redux)
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>She can literallly control hundreds of people in a moment. those fibers move really damn quick
Well thank god speed is equalised so its totally worthless
Dante still lowdiffs. Doesnt need yamato either.
Well thank god speed is equalised so its totally worthless
Dante still lowdiffs. Doesnt need yamato either.
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@Aizen You kinda need a reason if you want your vote to be counted
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I already gave reasons 
timestop yamato jackpot seal lowdiff
timestop yamato jackpot seal lowdiff
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I'd like to point out that it was never "Unanimously" disagreed that he couldn't bypass her regen within that old thread. Ryu himself even commented on the end claiming he can bypass it.
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Yamato wont help much and Jackpot only works against demonsLordAizenSama said:I already gave reasons
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Ryu: High enough spacial manipulation can of course easily negate Ryuko's regen
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They were just saying it can bypass it, that's all.
That said, I'm currently in a discussion with Ever about whether he should have Yamato in DMC2.
That said, I'm currently in a discussion with Ever about whether he should have Yamato in DMC2.
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Dante's is nowhere near high enoughLordAizenSama said:
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Clearly missing the point smh. Dante can still bypass levels of regen. Don't know why people keep acting like it's Alucards regen.
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@Aizen
He proceeded to say that Dante's spatial manipulation isn't high enough. You're taking what he said out of context.
He proceeded to say that Dante's spatial manipulation isn't high enough. You're taking what he said out of context.
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Please don't go to shit thread please....
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Yes it can
Doesn't matter though
Because Dante timestops and ragyo becomes rektyo.
Doesn't matter though
Because Dante timestops and ragyo becomes rektyo.
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No it cant, everyone agrees it cant. You just saying 'lol yeah it can' doesnt make your point right.
Time stop alone wont kill her
Time stop alone wont kill her
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Hold up summoning Ryu. Again Weeky not much people agreed it can't.
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Dante's only stuff here that could possibly matter is sealing, spatial manipulation via Yamato, Time manipuation and Time Stop, maybe that minor precog via Alastor, minor transmutation via Gilgamesh, and maybe attack reflection via Royal Guard?
Time Stop isnt forever, it requires energy, DT runes to spend... gameplay mechanics inside, I would say it stops time for a reasonable amount of time but nothing too serious.
Quicksilver is slowing down time to a crawl for from Dante's perspective a few seconds iirc, this shown both in cutscene and gameplay.
and even when Dante HAD Yamato...did he really ever use it often? Did he use it like "Oh jeez this is MY go to weapon!"
The only way Dante can win is if he IMMEDIATELY (to stop Ragyo from mindhaxxing him which he wouldn't likely know about even with that minor precog.) starts off with Time Stop and uses Yamato to seal OR use spatial Manipulation to take down Ragyo ( if it's spatial Manipulation can in fact get past her regen)
Thats ONE/TWO ways with ONE ability....with ONE weapon. of which dante has an ASSLOAD of abilities and weapons.
Time Stop isnt forever, it requires energy, DT runes to spend... gameplay mechanics inside, I would say it stops time for a reasonable amount of time but nothing too serious.
Quicksilver is slowing down time to a crawl for from Dante's perspective a few seconds iirc, this shown both in cutscene and gameplay.
and even when Dante HAD Yamato...did he really ever use it often? Did he use it like "Oh jeez this is MY go to weapon!"
The only way Dante can win is if he IMMEDIATELY (to stop Ragyo from mindhaxxing him which he wouldn't likely know about even with that minor precog.) starts off with Time Stop and uses Yamato to seal OR use spatial Manipulation to take down Ragyo ( if it's spatial Manipulation can in fact get past her regen)
Thats ONE/TWO ways with ONE ability....with ONE weapon. of which dante has an ASSLOAD of abilities and weapons.
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IMO, even if Dante's resistance is not really good, it should be enough to resist Ragyo's mind hax for a bit, realize that he's in a bad situation and stop the time. And even though it's not guaranteed that Yamato will do jack, I think Transmutation via Gilgamesh should work just fine, I don't know where the "Minor" part came from.
Voting Dante for this and reasons above.
Voting Dante for this and reasons above.
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The hell it won't. Ryuko, who has a FAR better feat in resisting mind manipulation had her memories of her ENTIRE LIFE modified to the point she kissed her father's killer and was going about ******** all over verbally towards Senketsu.
and though you may have a point with Gilgamesh, I think Dante's vast arsenal is to his downfall as only a FEW things will do anything of worth here. Meaing its unlikely for him to use said weapons before being mindahxed....plus as I said he aint even going ot get to use Gilgamesh due to being mindhaxed
and though you may have a point with Gilgamesh, I think Dante's vast arsenal is to his downfall as only a FEW things will do anything of worth here. Meaing its unlikely for him to use said weapons before being mindahxed....plus as I said he aint even going ot get to use Gilgamesh due to being mindhaxed
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Yamato wont help much and Jackpot only works against demons
Where is it said jackpot only works on demons not saying you're wrong I just don't remember that being said
i say Dante Gilgamesh would be able to affect ragyo regen and in combination with his time manipulation
Also Dante has fought demons with high mid to low high Regenerationn before and has beaten them so that's nothing new to Dante
Where is it said jackpot only works on demons not saying you're wrong I just don't remember that being said
i say Dante Gilgamesh would be able to affect ragyo regen and in combination with his time manipulation
Also Dante has fought demons with high mid to low high Regenerationn before and has beaten them so that's nothing new to Dante
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@Sparda From his profile it says its a technique to seal demons, but i can find literally nothing about a sealing technique called Jackpot anywhere on the DMC wiki...the only thing that is even there is that its nothing but a recurring catchphrase, not any kind of sealing or even a technique
Unless he leads with that specific combination he's getting mind haxxed
Unless he leads with that specific combination he's getting mind haxxed
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The problem here is regardless of whether or not Dante is serious, he would have no idea what Ragyo is capable of and by the time he WOULD it would be too late and he'd already be mindhaxxed. He would have to decide to choose the ONE or TWO options he has out of DOZENS if not HUNDREDS that would get him the win before Ragyo mind manipulated him. BOTH of which require him to instantly start with his time stop.
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I don't think we should assume it only works on demons because Dante only fights demons and he has only ever used it twice against mundus and arkham
How good is ragyo'd mindhax
How good is ragyo'd mindhax
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Good enough to make hundreds of people chosen specificaly by Satsuki to resist Life Fibers to be Ragyo's slaves instantly, and enough to warp even Ryuko's mind making entirely new life memories and warping her to the point of kissing Nui Harime her father's murderer and going to verbally assault Senketsu callously who she normally cares for to an extreme amount.
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@Sparda That doesnt address the concern of the supposed Jackpot technique potentially not even existing...
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Oh ragyo it is then Dante's resistance feat to mind manipulation does come close to that
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We know he does have sealing he used it in his last fight with mundus and with arkhamWeeklyBattles said:
And in the sparda devil trigger he would have definitely have sealing as he has all of sparda's powers one of which was sealing
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Do you have videos of him doing this? Because from what i read on the DMC wiki it doesnt sound like sealing
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https://youtu.be/0jvwzkwmFn0 Go to 19:47 into the video
Berial: "Wrapped in flames, the Demon Berial was born and raised in The Underworld, a land known for its barbarity. As prince to the Demon Emperor, who has been sealed away, Berial faced ruling The Underworld alone."
Berial: "Wrapped in flames, the Demon Berial was born and raised in The Underworld, a land known for its barbarity. As prince to the Demon Emperor, who has been sealed away, Berial faced ruling The Underworld alone."
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Okay, a couple things to note:Sparda 20000000 said:
1. Dante was specifically amped by Trish's power, this isnt something he did on his own. I looked up the Arkham fight and again, he did this with Vergil's help, not on his own.
2. Thats not sealing. In the Arkham fight Vergil even says that their combined power killed Arkham.
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He would still have sealing in the sparda devil trigger
No lady kills arkham
No lady kills arkham
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Dante should take this for the reasons stated above.
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Sparda doesnt even have sealing on his profile...Sparda 20000000 said:
Shouldnt that be on her profile if she does...?
