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Raditz Saga Goku Vs Saitama

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So Boros is baseline, or 56 Zettatons. Piccolo is 69 Zettatons, or a little more than 20% over baseline.

Saitama is superior to Boros by an unknown amount, and is probably stronger than 20% above baseline.

But that said, I don't know if an unknown amount of superiority is enough to trump Goku. He had an absolutely obscene skill and experience advantage, as well as superior range and combat versatility.

But really it all comes down to Saitama's level of superiority to Boros being unknown. If he is obscenely stronger, he should win. But if the gap Ian any less than like 10x over Boros, Goku can manage. Inconclusive.
 
Thing is, idk if the above votes can be counted.

It is completely speculative as to how high above Saitama is beyond Boros, and Boros is baseline. If we treat them like we always do Saitama is just unquantifiably above 56 Zettatons and does not have the "insane AP advantage" that the votes are riding on. If we look at what is quantifiable Goku leads in AP.

Because of Saitama's uncertain level of superiority to Boros I feel like this can't be anything but inconclusive.
 
It's personal preference on how we treat the superiority to Boros, there is no select 100% nothing else interpretation.

Hell that goes for most vs matches that actually, personal presence on who wins and you debate and give your reasons why.
 
I mean personal opinion is fine, but when it comes to having the opinion that a character is significantly stronger than what is quantifiable I don't know if we can add VS matches like that.

Matches based on pure speculation should be inconclusive.
 
The only thing we have for saitama is that he's stronger than baseline planet level, and that's when he's serious. So it's likely not that big of a leap as casually being stronger than baseline.
 
Assaltwaffle said:
I mean personal opinion is fine, but when it comes to having the opinion that a character is significantly stronger than what is quantifiable I don't know if we can add VS matches like that
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If a person is capable of making educated reasons as to why they believe Saitana is stronger or if they are, to not add it as anything but inconclusive destroys the point of even debating so or not.
 
Theglassman12 said:
The only thing we have for saitama is that he's stronger than baseline planet level, and that's when he's serious. So it's likely not that big of a leap as casually being stronger than baseline.
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Casual Saitama is far stronger than Boros.
 
Why so?

Because it's called serious punch?

Saitama proceeds to show shit all for physical exertion and Boros even comments about how he's lying and has plenty of power left.
 
Saitama's casual punches transformed Boros into a puddle of blood, and the mere shockwave of his attack destroyed both the Star Cannon and Boros, at the end of the fight Boros said that Saitama doesn't really fought seriously.
 
@Gargoyle the fact that saitama said that he's going to use his trump card rather than a casual punch to defeat boros says that he did more than casually defeat him.
 
Saitama received no damage against Boros, this pretty much speaks against Saitama being "just" above Boros. He's not just above, he's casually above him while not even being serious. His "Serious Punch" didn't even physically hit Boros, but it was the shockwave of the attack.
 
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@Gargoyle the fact that saitama said that he's going to use his trump card rather than a casual punch to defeat boros says that he did more than casually defeat him.
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2 minutes later Boros says he's lying, thus literally saying Saitama is wrong.
 
It's like people stopped watching/reading OPM right after Serious Punch was thrown. Boros straight up says that Saitama lied about going serious and went easy on him the entire time. Saitama vs Garou, someone comparable if not superior to Boros, was an ungodly stomp. Saitama is way above Boros. He had to use much more power than he usually does, but he still one shot him casually.
 
There are two types of people in this world.

Those who believe Ryu is literally god.

And those who are wrong
 
That line was Boros's inner monolouge, IIRC that was taken out in the final version, and even then it'd be PIS/Saitama restraining himself since he absolutely no sells explicitly stronger attacks from Boros later on.
 
Reminder that Saitama withstanding the force of his own punch is a durability feat.

And said punch was strong enough to cancel out Star Cannon. So yes he can shrug off Star Cannon.
 
saitama expiccidly lied about being serious out of pity by relating ot being eteraly bored in a fight.

He casualy oneshot boros, an0 he waass not going all out, but he still oneshot him, he was not not equal in power or slightly higher, he was oneshottinh, all the while goku is slightly higher, so goku may be capable of whistanding more then one "serious" punch, but it will hurt a lot, and saitama can just keep doing it, or genuinly go all out.


and if saying serious series is enough to say hes going all out, did he put all his power in against the elder centipede?
 
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