Questions about 1-A

[Onel]

1. Why is transcending the concepts of time and space not outer? Being above those 2 concepts pretty much means you’re above dimensionality and being above dimensionality is outer, as stated in the tiering system.

2. Why wouldn’t being an abstract being be outer? Abstractions exist beyond the concepts of time and space. (Correlates to the first question)

3. What exactly are “extensions of the concepts of time and space?” It says that a character needs to be above the extensions of the concepts which they transcend.

4. If nothing else works for outer, are the only 2 ways really just being above the extensions of the concepts of time and space which a character transcends and through a inf layered hierarchy? Or is there any other possible way?

 

[Everything12]

Because you have to show evidence that transcend the concept of Space and Time means outside any possible extension of Space and Time and is not localised to like the fourth dimension of whatever. Basically the Wiki does not like generalising such assumptions and requires explicit proof to reach these levels.

 

[Sus]

1. Why is transcending the concepts of time and space not outer? Being above those 2 concepts pretty much means you’re above dimensionality and being above dimensionality is outer, as stated in the tiering system.

inverse proofs are needed

2. Why wouldn’t being an abstract being be outer? Abstractions exist beyond the concepts of time and space. (Correlates to the first question)

inverse proofs are needed

3. What exactly are “extensions of the concepts of time and space?” It says that a character needs to be above the extensions of the concepts which they transcend

it doesn't work like that, we don't grant complete transcendence over a hierarchy of infinite dimensions by simply saying "i transcend spacetime"

4. If nothing else works for outer, are the only 2 ways really just being above the extensions of the concepts of time and space which a character transcends and through a inf

there's many ways, none of the ones you mentioned though

 

[Onel]

there's many ways, none of the ones you mentioned though

Huh? But being above all extensions of the concepts of time and space, which the character transcends is outer. It’s stated on the tiering system. And Everything12 just said it above.

 

[Bernkastelll]

1. Why is transcending the concepts of time and space not outer? Being above those 2 concepts pretty much means you’re above dimensionality and being above dimensionality is outer, as stated in the tiering system.

Basically, the extension of space and time are pretty much, theories, you need to prove that the character is 1-A due it, which is impossible without the verse giving extra informations about the cosmology, transcending the concept of time and space alone, will never be enough, unless the verse has evidences to it

2. Why wouldn’t being an abstract being be outer? Abstractions exist beyond the concepts of time and space. (Correlates to the first question)

There are pretty much, different types of abstractions, such as embodiment of ice cream, embodiment of Death, a Dream, embodiment of Time etc, abstractions aren't beyond the concept of space and time, even if it was, it wouldnt be 1-A by default due my previous answer

3. What exactly are “extensions of the concepts of time and space?” It says that a character needs to be above the extensions of the concepts which they transcend.

pretty much, dimensions, be it spatial or temporal, to be 1-A, we need to prove that the characters are indeed above any expansion of these hierarquies

4. If nothing else works for outer, are the only 2 ways really just being above the extensions of the concepts of time and space which a character transcends and through a inf layered hierarchy? Or is there any other possible way?

it doesnt really need to be infinitely layered, you just need to prove that a character is above any expansion of it, let's see, a verse has 2 hierarchies, the first one is the hierarchy of dimensions, but doenst matter how much dimensions the hierarchy of dimensions can stack, the hierarchy of dimensions will never reach the second hierarchy, which is transcendental in this case

 

[Onel]

Because you have to show evidence that transcend the concept of Space and Time means outside any possible extension of Space and Time and is not localised to like the fourth dimension of whatever. Basically the Wiki does not like generalising such assumptions and requires explicit proof to reach these levels.

I see what you mean now. Alright, thanks.

 

[Sus]

Huh? But being above all extensions of the concepts of time and space, which the character transcends is outer. It’s stated on the tiering system. And Everything12 just said it above.

yeah, he said proofs are needed

 

[Onel]

alright. I think I get what you mean

 

[Sus]

i still don't know why y'all treat 1A as something special

 

[Onel]

yeah, he said proofs are needed

Yea, proof that the character is beyond the extensions.

 

[Cul0r]

i still don't know why y'all treat 1A as something special

Cuz people like strong stuff idk

 

[Sus]

Cuz people like strong stuff idk

day 1677216 of saying it isn't that different from 1C and 1B

 

[Cul0r]

day 1677216 of saying it isn't that different from 1C and 1B

Either way people will just like it because "stronk" and that it's above it.