Question Why isn't Madoka tier 1?

[AquaWaifu]

What stops her from being tier 1 C or 1B?

 

[Konaguna]

Pretty sure this been discussed many times and not just here

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

>Discussed many times

>Not only here

 

[Konaguna]

I already know I'm gonna regret what I said

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Interesting

 

[SomebodyData]

The same thing that stops Goku or any character that isn't tier 1, I guess.

Hasn't been shown (or at least proven here) yet.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Maybe in new series or new movie they will give an tier 1 feats? ovo

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I've seen the OG series as well as rebellion. If a tier 1 feat were to happen, what would y'all guess it would be like?

 

[SomebodyData]

Probably through production notes to be honest, like a feat occurs but we don't realize its tier 1 til we read the lore behind it.

 

[Kaltias]

If a tier 1 feat happened it would probably be due to Madoka's transcendence shenanigans imo.

I just can't really imagine higher dimensional-like stuff coming up otherwise

 

[AquaWaifu]

Whats a difference between her and say the Living Tribunal?

 

[Kaltias]

That Madoka transcends basic time and space while TLT transcends a multiverse infinite degrees of infinity bigger than Madoka's

 

[SomebodyData]

The Marvel universe includes infinite geometric dimensions and the Living Tribunal can contend with someone who embodies all of them.

 

[AquaWaifu]

Hmm alright I got a better idea on how this transcending stuff works from tier 2 and tier 1.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

...Oh no! I have bad feeling about this

 

[AquaWaifu]

Just to clarify, Im not trying to argue she SHOULD be tier 1, Im just confused personally on the distinction between the tiers when its comes to the descriptions for characters on here, reading the page on the tiering system didnt help fully for me.

 

[Wokistan]

We consider dimensions not in the context of alternate universes, but in the context of spatial or temporal axes. Think of the XYZ grid. Each of those directions is a dimension.

A baseline universe has 3+1 (temporal dimension) dimensions for a total of four. If the character destroys/creates a space with extra spatial or temporal dimensions thrown in there, they can get to tier 1 (6 or more). "Transcendent over a multiverse" on its own does not necessarily indicate a dimension jump, though.

1-A is for characters unbound by the idea of dimensionality entirely.