Question regarding the spine rip standards

[Qawsedf234]

So the current calc for spine rips is that it requires about 1 million newtons of force based on the VSauce video about it.

My question is isn't this video talking about vertical/neck-based spine rips and more importantly isn't it about doing it all at once? Even the demonstration was based on the neck being pulled upwards.

As an example of what I mean:

• Selene is rated as Class K but she performed this feat by ripping the spine from the back and out which isn't how the force was calculated
• Jungle Hunter did the feat by breaking each individual bone rather than every bone at once, he also did it from a different direction compared to the Vsauce video

Wouldn't this require less force than doing it all at once and from a different direction like with this as an example?

 

[KLOL506]

So the current calc for spine rips is that it requires about 1 million newtons of force based on the VSauce video about it.

My question is isn't this video talking about vertical/neck-based spine rips and more importantly isn't it about doing it all at once? Even the demonstration was based on the neck being pulled upwards.

Correct. It's about pulling it out from the neck and not peeling it like a sticker on a carton.

As an example of what I mean:

• Selene is rated as Class K but she performed this feat by ripping the spine from the back and out which isn't how the force was calculated

Nope, that shouldn't be Class K. It should be a straight vertical pull upwards. I have so far not accepted any of the feats which haven't been done in the fashion of Mortal Kombat. Selene's feat seems to be more of a peeling option which would undermine the joints from the get go.

• Jungle Hunter did the feat by breaking each individual bone rather than every bone at once, he also did it from a different direction compared to the Vsauce video

That's even worse. Breaking every individual bone instead of pulling it all out at once like Sub-Zero and Scorpion do is too much of a reach.

Wouldn't this require less force than doing it all at once and from a different direction like with this as an example?

Correct. For Class K to be valid for a spine rip it should explicitly be like this or like this.

 

[RoTt35]

Would this qualify? If you watch the scene frame by frame it looks like there is something next to the head besides the blood which I think is the spine, that or I have bad eyesight

 

[Qawsedf234]

If you watch the scene frame by frame it looks like there is something next to the head besides the blood which I think is the spine,

In that scene its the chain necklace that Clegane throws rather than the spine. I think at least.

 

[RoTt35]

In that scene its the chain necklace that Clegane throws rather than the spine. I think at least.

Gregor wasn't holding the chain when he ripped the head off. Perhaps a possibly Class K can work if it is very ambiguous? That if the feat qualifies for the standards

 

[Qawsedf234]

Gregor wasn't holding the chain when he ripped the head off.

It was a chain, you can see it loop at the bottom if you follow it down.

 

[KLOL506]

TL; DR, for a spine rip to be Class K, you need to rip out the enter thing from the neck up, cleanly, without compromising the spine from the start.

You won't qualify if you peel it out from the pelvis. That'll need its own LS value which we don't know yet other than that it's Superhuman at best.

 

[RoTt35]

It was a chain, you can see it loop at the bottom if you follow it down.

Ah okey, my eyes deceived me, sorry for the derailment

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Would the feat be Class K if, instead of grabbing the neck or the head and pulling upward, the person reached into the target's chest and pulled their spinal column out from the bottom, seeing as how they are practically inverse operations?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Would the feat be Class K if, instead of grabbing the neck or the head and pulling upward, the person reached into the target's chest and pulled their spinal column out from the bottom, seeing as how they are practically inverse operations?

It may need to be calced, since its possible the horizontal strength is much weaker than the vertical strength of those muscles.

 

[KLOL506]

Would the feat be Class K if, instead of grabbing the neck or the head and pulling upward, the person reached into the target's chest and pulled their spinal column out from the bottom, seeing as how they are practically inverse operations?

No, because then you'd be weakening the spine's connection points where it'd be at its strongest and would stretch the most during a neck-based spine rip, because you'd have to pull pretty far to get a clean break from the back muscles like Sub-Zero, as our muscles aren't exactly that willing to give in to such extreme pulling strengths.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

This is the reference, by the way (2:26).

 

[KLOL506]

This is the reference, by the way (2:26).

Yeah, I know what you mean, I saw this kind of alternate spine rip first in MK9 with Sub-Zero's freeze Spine Rip from the chest.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Ah. Gotcha.