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Do we expect combatants from different verses in a fight speak the same exact language?
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Question about language.
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If we talking about fights language hardly matters, but for anything else like its assumed they can understand each other
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Is it listed on the SBA tho?
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What can automatic translation do if we assumed they understand each other?
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No, because SBA is just for standard fights so there won't be any talking they just fight to win.
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Court cases don't work if the 2 characters don't understand each other.
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They can fight with words, too.
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Social influencing becomes moot if that's the case. Reigen might as well lose a bunch of match if others don't speak japanese.
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But SBA is not really prepared for all kinds of fights that's why is called standard.
Social influence would only work outside SBA because it's assumed they are fighting to win and won't be giving up. You can specify that part but I don't even think social influence is usable in combat.
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Reigen practically won all his fights not through combat prowess but through influencing others to surrender.
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(Toge Inumaki)
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I dont know your character but there are likely more characters with the same tiers as him to fight or just specify that they are in character, that might help but you are stil have to argue against a bunch of people that believe stats would give the win
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Squirrel girl friendzoned galactus which made him quit trying to eat earth, so she would win against gods just on her social influence alone
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Since Echo (MCU) is deaf that would give her social influence resistance?
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Not really, toon characters for example could scare others or inanimate objects with merely a gesture.
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Should a CRT be made for this?
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Thats why its resistance not immunity normal characters cant really do that, but what about someone blind and deaf? That would be immunity to social influence?
ShionAH
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I mean some characters literally are just...charismatic so its a passive
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But if the character cant "see" or "hear" the charisma it doesnt work
ShionAH
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Why not? They still can feel
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it is a supernatural ability for a reason
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How?
ShionAH
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You do know SI can be done passively right
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So? Being deaf and blind can also a passive.
ShionAH
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What?? Dude. Being deaf and blind /=/ not being able to feel anything
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Yes it is but Social influence is based on visuals and or their words
ShionAH
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No. It can be an aura
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There is no mention to that on the page also feeling auras is an ability so even auras requires an ability to sense them
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ShionAH
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Because anyone with the capacity to think can know that is a possiblity
I meant passive auras
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Not really, why would an aura be somehow related to Social influence? I saw cases where because they were affected by social influence they could feel an aura, but thats a consequence of being affected by social influence.
Thats an ability a would still require enchanted senses to feel auras.
ShionAH
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What are you saying?? There can be characters with Social Influencing Auras? Passive Social Influence exists.
No, some auras act like passives
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Its you are saying that, but as i explained the aura was a product of being affected by social influence, like an illusion that you get after looking at the sharingan
Ghost often have passive invisibility does that mean they can be seen by people without somehow enchanted senses?
I think this conversation is going to far its derailing, we should stop this arguing
ShionAH
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True
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Anwyays
Listen here Swordsman of the Mist,
Social Influencing can be done through a Variety of methods....
But just to specifically counter your point of Visual and Auditory Social Influencing, I'll both ask and answer your question
The question:
Thats why its resistance not immunity normal characters cant really do that, but what about someone blind and deaf? That would be immunity to social influence?
The Answer:
If a character is both Blind and Deaf then sure. IMO Social Influencing that ONLY applies itself around sight and hearing would not be able to work on a character that it blind and deaf (unless they have feats of doing just that). Its essentially the same principle as a trying to soul hax a character that has no soul. The method needed to apply the hax is invalid because the conditions are not present. You cant influence a man with words if the man in question cant hear those words
BUT.... what I believe the point Shion was trying to make about the Auras is more specifically about the 6th Sense. Every person has a Sixth Sense known as Interoception and/or Proprioception. Our sixth sense is more a less a supernatural awareness ability that allows us to keep track of where our body parts are in space. It is what allows us to perceive the state of and threats to our internal organs. From pangs and cramps to shortness of breath, it warns us when something is off. For instance, you feel like something is going to happen before even actually experiencing them. The sixth sense in all truth and honesty is the ability to perceive something which isn't actually there.
Even if a character is Blind and Deaf, there Sixth sense still works which allows them to perceive things happening around them and what some exceptional characters with broken Social Influencing can do is essentially affect that Sixth Sense and therefor influence them. And the way they influence them is not with Sight and Sound but with their sheer presence. Through the act of them being there, you (as a blind and deaf man) are able to feel there presence in front of you and their presence influences you
Anyways
I believe that is more or less what Shion was trying to convey
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Yep
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Yup
