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-Pyra: 4
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-Aizen: 5/6(?)
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Pyra (Xenoblade) vs Sosuke Aizen
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BUMP!!
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Aizen should beat the thot for the reasons stated above.
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[TRIGGERED]
I will not take your vote Kagami.
I will not take your vote Kagami.
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Veloxt1r0kore said:
Yes, let the anger flow through you.
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Joke aside Kagami,i take your vote. ovo
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BUMP!!
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BUMP!!
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Switching to Pyra FRA
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Welp,that's 5 vote for Pyra.
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Need to waiting Deus to come here Dot.
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I mean the KS is still a thing. All Pyra need is to see Aizen and she's affected by KS so his hax is faster.
She won't know where Aizen since he can make Pyra think she fight someone else like he tricked Yhwach thinking he fight both Renji and Ichigo.
Not to mention he has bunch of way to dodge the lasers with flight, shunpo, barrier and regen.
And Shunpo can help Kyouraku to dodge something like this (gif versio). And Aizen's shunpo mastery should be at least comparable if not superior than Kyouraku.
But of course, it is better wait for the revision for Pyra.
She won't know where Aizen since he can make Pyra think she fight someone else like he tricked Yhwach thinking he fight both Renji and Ichigo.
Not to mention he has bunch of way to dodge the lasers with flight, shunpo, barrier and regen.
And Shunpo can help Kyouraku to dodge something like this (gif versio). And Aizen's shunpo mastery should be at least comparable if not superior than Kyouraku.
But of course, it is better wait for the revision for Pyra.
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I agree completely with Dot here, the votes for Pyra are based off of abilities she doesn't even have at the moment. I think it's being extremely generous to count them in the first place.
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I'll retract my vote from Pyra for now...
They should make a CRT for those missing abilities that she doesnt have.
They should make a CRT for those missing abilities that she doesnt have.
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Why don't we wait for someone to complete 200+ hours of game time to gather every ability Pyra is suppose to have; but when you're a college graduate with a full time job like I am, the time to do it is pretty hard to find. Literally all of the Xenoblade 2 profiles are unfinished; especially Rex and Pyra. For the time, let's preferably close the thread for too much derailment. All of Pyra's losses are going to be removed from Pyra's profile real fast; and iirc, the 6-A battle royale thread was considered a stomp in Rex and Pyra's favor despite Aizen being on the thread.
Edit: On second thought, actually, Time Manipulation and Reality Warping are Pyra's trump cards. While time is stopped, she can "make her imagination become reality" which would bypass KS, Aizen can't do Jack Schitt while time is stopped, have Aizen's physical self be right in front of her, and then just blitz him.
Edit: On second thought, actually, Time Manipulation and Reality Warping are Pyra's trump cards. While time is stopped, she can "make her imagination become reality" which would bypass KS, Aizen can't do Jack Schitt while time is stopped, have Aizen's physical self be right in front of her, and then just blitz him.
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That's nice and all but that doesn't make your votes valid. You can make a CRT whenever you have free time, if not then don't bother trying to debate using abilities that aren't even on the profile. Pick one.
As explained above, she won't have the chance to get time stop in. The first thing Aizen will do immediately is put her under the effects of KS and she'll be in a illusion that'll effect her for years on end and have all 5 of her senses toyed with. Keep in mind this also works on beings with enhanced senses.
As explained above, she won't have the chance to get time stop in. The first thing Aizen will do immediately is put her under the effects of KS and she'll be in a illusion that'll effect her for years on end and have all 5 of her senses toyed with. Keep in mind this also works on beings with enhanced senses.
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Yeah, I could make the same argument about Aizen's profile. He doesn't have Mind manipulation or Soul manipulation on the powers and abilities section, and the notable techniques section is plagiarized from Bleach Wiki to the point where it's page deletion worthy; same thing most most of Bleach's profiles anyway.
Having 5 senses toyed with doesn't prevent one from simply using their imagination. Pyra simply needs to pretend she's striking Aizen down and pretend everything she sees, hears or feels is fake, and her imagination becomes reality. As in, Aizen's not actually striking her down and and Aizen is just a clear cut target wherever he is.
Having 5 senses toyed with doesn't prevent one from simply using their imagination. Pyra simply needs to pretend she's striking Aizen down and pretend everything she sees, hears or feels is fake, and her imagination becomes reality. As in, Aizen's not actually striking her down and and Aizen is just a clear cut target wherever he is.
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Soul Manipulation in Bleach is a obvious given, it's one of the basic abilities in the verse to attack the soul with the Zanpakuto which literally translates to Soul Cutter. Gargoyle is the one who mentioned Mind Manipulation, KS isn't mind hax, it's very potent illusion hax. He likely got the two confused since it's common for people to mix the two up. The pages being plagiarized isn't my problem, I'm not the one who made the profiles. I don't like how the abilites are copy and pasted but there's not much we can do at the moment with the lack of knowledgeable Bleach members. I'll likely bring that up after I plan a CRT for the verse speed wise. And really? Deletion? That sounds like an overreaction.
Toying with the imagination would indeed prevent one from using their imagination. They're trapped in an illusion that anything Aizen wants her to be in. It can be anything from a simple illusion to a much more potent one, that topped with his massive intelligence advantage leads me to believe that Aizen wins here more often than not. She pretends that she strikes Aizen down? Lucky for him she's only in an illusion that he made. He also have other Kido's and spells that he can use even if KS doesn't work ( Which is will. )
Unless you wanna just go ahead and say that the votes for both characters don't count despite Dat Dot being the only one who actually used whats on the profiles.
Toying with the imagination would indeed prevent one from using their imagination. They're trapped in an illusion that anything Aizen wants her to be in. It can be anything from a simple illusion to a much more potent one, that topped with his massive intelligence advantage leads me to believe that Aizen wins here more often than not. She pretends that she strikes Aizen down? Lucky for him she's only in an illusion that he made. He also have other Kido's and spells that he can use even if KS doesn't work ( Which is will. )
Unless you wanna just go ahead and say that the votes for both characters don't count despite Dat Dot being the only one who actually used whats on the profiles.
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Ohhhhhhhhhh I like where this is going
Vote retracted
Vote retracted
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Wrong, Time Manipulation and Reality Warping are on Pyra's profile as well. As well as the countless elemental abilities and powers ups and the summoning of Artifice Siren. Aizen's KS won't work on Siren because he's a giant robot with great range. There was also a statement about Artifice's being able to separate atoms somewhere, but Numberguy is probably an expert. Soul manipulation for the entire Bleach verse is NLF. Bleach portrays souls as being solid objects (Chad even before possessing supernatural powers was able to punch a Hollow) and it has one of the weakest levels of invisibility; where pretty much everyone with enhanced senses or decently superhuman physical characteristics of Tier 8 or above can see them. Matt and a few other Admins have plans to revise all of Bleach to make that clear. And I wasn't suggesting all pages need to be deleted right away, but they're still a big mess that needs to be fixed at some point. Bad enough where a deletion and rewrite from scratch might be the best course of action. I know you didn't create them, but former users who did certainly have. Additionally, plagiarism is actually a very serious crime; people have lost their jobs or even got arrested for doing those types of things.
Imagination isn't one of the 5 senses; it's a different category on it's own. The best KS can do is just cancel each others Reality Warping out and making it so neither of them do.
Imagination isn't one of the 5 senses; it's a different category on it's own. The best KS can do is just cancel each others Reality Warping out and making it so neither of them do.
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Wrong, Time Manipulation and Reality Warping are on Pyra's profile as well.
False, you assumed I was referring to these abilities. I've read her profile Medeus and I'm aware of her time manipulation. I was referring to the countless other abilities you were talking about beforehand such lasers that can one shot atomic hax. As I said make a CRT and get those abilities passed but as for now nobody should use that. Well that isn't whenever you have time of course.
Aizen's KS won't work on Siren because he's a giant robot with great range. There was also a statement about Artifice's being able to separate atoms somewhere, but Numberguy is probably an expert.
Yeah you'd be correct about KS not effecting the robot since well its a robot. However you can make a CRT for this and get the Atomic hax passed. Until then I'm going to completely ignore it and I'd appreciate if you stopped bringing that aspect up. Meanwhile Aizen can still handle the robot himself with his Kido or even attack it with his own Reiatsu from a distance ( As seen in the Blood War Arc. )
Soul manipulation for the entire Bleach verse is NLF. Bleach portrays souls as being solid objects (Chad even before possessing supernatural powers was able to punch a Hollow) and it has one of the weakest levels of invisibility; where pretty much everyone with enhanced senses or decently superhuman physical characteristics of Tier 8 or above can see them.
Uhhh no its not an NLF in the slightest. An NLF would be me saying Yhwach can do anything with the Almighty. I belive your looking for a different term. And Hollows are not souls like you think Hollows are Soul Based creatures. It's a bit different, Shinigami are literally souls and they are able to damage each other. No matter how you cut it that's Soul Manipulation. I didn't even mention Invisibility so I'm not gonna get into that. Yeah I'm aware that Plagirism is a serious crime, I have a friend who got kicked out of College for that. I'm just saying deleting an entire verse important as Bleach is nonsense, rather than fixing them.
That's all I'll say for now Hibachi calls.
False, you assumed I was referring to these abilities. I've read her profile Medeus and I'm aware of her time manipulation. I was referring to the countless other abilities you were talking about beforehand such lasers that can one shot atomic hax. As I said make a CRT and get those abilities passed but as for now nobody should use that. Well that isn't whenever you have time of course.
Aizen's KS won't work on Siren because he's a giant robot with great range. There was also a statement about Artifice's being able to separate atoms somewhere, but Numberguy is probably an expert.
Yeah you'd be correct about KS not effecting the robot since well its a robot. However you can make a CRT for this and get the Atomic hax passed. Until then I'm going to completely ignore it and I'd appreciate if you stopped bringing that aspect up. Meanwhile Aizen can still handle the robot himself with his Kido or even attack it with his own Reiatsu from a distance ( As seen in the Blood War Arc. )
Soul manipulation for the entire Bleach verse is NLF. Bleach portrays souls as being solid objects (Chad even before possessing supernatural powers was able to punch a Hollow) and it has one of the weakest levels of invisibility; where pretty much everyone with enhanced senses or decently superhuman physical characteristics of Tier 8 or above can see them.
Uhhh no its not an NLF in the slightest. An NLF would be me saying Yhwach can do anything with the Almighty. I belive your looking for a different term. And Hollows are not souls like you think Hollows are Soul Based creatures. It's a bit different, Shinigami are literally souls and they are able to damage each other. No matter how you cut it that's Soul Manipulation. I didn't even mention Invisibility so I'm not gonna get into that. Yeah I'm aware that Plagirism is a serious crime, I have a friend who got kicked out of College for that. I'm just saying deleting an entire verse important as Bleach is nonsense, rather than fixing them.
That's all I'll say for now Hibachi calls.
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Fine, I wait for it to be added before I bring up atomization.
However, Kido, isn't going to be destroying Artifice Siren; he's much to durable and powerful for Aizen. Pyra can also heal faster than Aizen can damage her regardless of what hax he does; her healing is automatic and she can constantly fully restore her health even against opponents who are physically stronger than her. And since Aizen is physically weaker than her, and speed is equalized; which Pyra would blitz horribly if it wasn't, Aizen isn't finishing Pyra anytime soon. Maybe we should all vote inconclusive and call it a day for now, but I'll still holding on to my vote unless everyone can agree to switch to inconclusive.
Saying all Bleach characters have Soul manipulation is like saying every character in the Zero Escape franchise is Acausilual. Or that Doomguy has soul manipulation despite being able to harm demons with just bullets. Actually, Hollows are "tainted souls", but still solid beings nonetheless. Shinigami have also been affected by solid objects such as natural avalanches and falling ceilings on earth. Not suggesting a tier or durability downgrade at all, but it does prove that Shinigami are solid beings too. Anyway, I'll let someone like Matt or Everlasting revise that aspect.
Edit: Actually, it IS probably time to close this. Because
After reading this page, Rex and Pyra are going to be upgraded to High 3-A if not Low 2-C
However, Kido, isn't going to be destroying Artifice Siren; he's much to durable and powerful for Aizen. Pyra can also heal faster than Aizen can damage her regardless of what hax he does; her healing is automatic and she can constantly fully restore her health even against opponents who are physically stronger than her. And since Aizen is physically weaker than her, and speed is equalized; which Pyra would blitz horribly if it wasn't, Aizen isn't finishing Pyra anytime soon. Maybe we should all vote inconclusive and call it a day for now, but I'll still holding on to my vote unless everyone can agree to switch to inconclusive.
Saying all Bleach characters have Soul manipulation is like saying every character in the Zero Escape franchise is Acausilual. Or that Doomguy has soul manipulation despite being able to harm demons with just bullets. Actually, Hollows are "tainted souls", but still solid beings nonetheless. Shinigami have also been affected by solid objects such as natural avalanches and falling ceilings on earth. Not suggesting a tier or durability downgrade at all, but it does prove that Shinigami are solid beings too. Anyway, I'll let someone like Matt or Everlasting revise that aspect.
Edit: Actually, it IS probably time to close this. Because
After reading this page, Rex and Pyra are going to be upgraded to High 3-A if not Low 2-C
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Oh cool we basically wrote all that for no reason. Rip.
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Bleach seems to struggle to get a win lately.
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Ever since him and Piercer of Heaven left Bleach doesn't get too much attention.
Ever since him and Piercer of Heaven left Bleach doesn't get too much attention.
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I made a thread involving a certain fodder.
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Wait,so Pyra will upgraded to High 3-A and Low 2-C!!?
But even she get upgraded,she will meet an more challenging enemy (High 3-A there is true Jeanne,not that t*** from Nasuverse,Andromeda Shu and Sun,in low 2-C hello Aeon and Getter Emperor)
Otherwise RIP Yhwach only victory record since downgraded,and F for this thread.
Wait,so Pyra will upgraded to High 3-A and Low 2-C!!?
But even she get upgraded,she will meet an more challenging enemy (High 3-A there is true Jeanne,not that t*** from Nasuverse,Andromeda Shu and Sun,in low 2-C hello Aeon and Getter Emperor)
Otherwise RIP Yhwach only victory record since downgraded,and F for this thread.
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Yhwach won against Rick and Hajime.
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Lol thank's for remind me,Gar.
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So what's High 3A or Low 2C based off of?
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See DDM latest comment.
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I did
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Yeah, the Final Boss of Xenoblade 2 was said to be capable of destroying all of Alrest; a world that's infinite in size. And that probably includes the timeline as well; which would be Low 2-C. But the size alone makes it a High 3-A feat at bare minimum. Will probably make the content revision after my next work shift.
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Maybe "High 3-A,Likely Low 2-C" be fine?
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