PvZ AP Changes

[Ednaxel2]

New scaling for PvZ1/2 high tiers​

Going off the calculation below, powered up Shadow Peashooter with Plant Food is City Block level, seeing how this damage is 500, this upscales any Plant who scales to that damage up into that tier as well. In that same blog Plants who deal 1,800 were downgraded from 51 Tons to 22 Tons, they're still 8-B it's just that Zomboss mechs are no long City Block level+ for scaling far above the 51 Tons value.

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Replacing 6-B for Garden Warfare​

The 6-B feat we use is really flawed as it comes from a trailer, not a cutscene/gameplay/statement. This also goes against the very consistent tier 8 feats for the verse shown above. My proposal is to replace it with this revamped calculation (Multi-City Block level) we actually originally had this feat/tier for the profiles before, but it was removed due to it not being an accurate calculation, until now with the revamped one made recently.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks alright.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

there seen to alqays be a pvz crt

 

[Ednaxel2]

alqays

alqays? You mean always? That's true lol

 

[Padaruyos]

Okay here's an interesting I found. Max level Peapod does 600 damage with Plant Food giant peas. And that can go through Torchwood for 1200 damage.

60 Tons maybe? So still 8-B+

 

[Padaruyos]

I think I can find some plant damage values and Torchwood multipliers for AP scaling.

Shadow Peashooter Plant Food (500 damage): 33.1 Tons (8-B)

Downscaling
Level 13 Primal Peashooter does 250 damage with Plant Food and Torchwood doubles it to 500: 33.1 Tons
Level 13 Primal Peashooter Plant Food (250 damage): 16.55 Tons
Level 13 Primal Peashooter base attack + Torchwood (260 damage): 16.55 Tons
Level 13 Primal Peashooter (130 damage): 8.275 Tons (High 8-C+)
Level 4 Primal Peashooter + Torchwood (130 damage): 8.275 Tons
Level 4 Primal Peashooter (65 damage) : 4.1375 Tons (High 8-C)
Level 4 Peashooter + Torchwood (70 damage): 4.1375 Tons
Level 4 Peashooter (35 damage): 2.068 Tons
Level 1 Peashooter + Torchwood (40 damage): 2.068 Tons
Level 1 Peashooter (20 damage): 1.034 Tons (8-C)
Anything below 20 damage scales to baseline 8-C: 0.25 Tons

Upscaling
Level 6 Pea Pod Plant Food deals 500 damage: 33.1 Tons (8-B)
Torchwood doubles its power (1000 damage): 66.2 Tons (8-B+)
Instant kill plants deals 1800 damage: At least 66.2 Tons
Zomboss can no sell insta kill plants: At least 66.2 Tons, likely far higher

 

[Ednaxel2]

Okay here's an interesting I found. Max level Peapod does 600 damage with Plant Food giant peas. And that can go through Torchwood for 1200 damage.

60 Tons maybe? So still 8-B+

I think I can find some plant damage values and Torchwood multipliers for AP scaling.

Shadow Peashooter Plant Food (500 damage): 33.1 Tons (8-B)

Downscaling
Level 13 Primal Peashooter does 250 damage with Plant Food and Torchwood doubles it to 500: 33.1 Tons
Level 13 Primal Peashooter Plant Food (250 damage): 16.55 Tons
Level 13 Primal Peashooter base attack + Torchwood (260 damage): 16.55 Tons
Level 13 Primal Peashooter (130 damage): 8.275 Tons (High 8-C+)
Level 4 Primal Peashooter + Torchwood (130 damage): 8.275 Tons
Level 4 Primal Peashooter (65 damage) : 4.1375 Tons (High 8-C)
Level 4 Peashooter + Torchwood (70 damage): 4.1375 Tons
Level 4 Peashooter (35 damage): 2.068 Tons
Level 1 Peashooter + Torchwood (40 damage): 2.068 Tons
Level 1 Peashooter (20 damage): 1.034 Tons (8-C)
Anything below 20 damage scales to baseline 8-C: 0.25 Tons

Upscaling
Level 6 Pea Pod Plant Food deals 500 damage: 33.1 Tons (8-B)
Torchwood doubles its power (1000 damage): 66.2 Tons (8-B+)
Instant kill plants deals 1800 damage: At least 66.2 Tons
Zomboss can no sell insta kill plants: At least 66.2 Tons, likely far higher

I think this should be done in another thread after this one is done, but imo it does work

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

Well its simple and does make sense so I guess its fine.

 

[Ednaxel2]

Guess that's grace

 

[Ednaxel2]

Changes have been applied, will ask for this to be closed now

 

[Hypertornado099]

Changes have been applied, will ask for this to be closed now

I thought you needed 3 staff approvals

 

[Ednaxel2]

I thought you needed 3 staff approvals

For big verses 3 but small verses 2

 

[Hypertornado099]

For big verses 3 but small verses 2

Where in the rules does it say this?

 

[Ednaxel2]

Where in the rules does it say this?

Discussion rules:

In cases where the series verse has a significant following or a large amount of material has been published based on its content, it may be necessary to seek approval from a minimum of three staff members to ensure that all relevant parties are aware of and agree with the proposed revisions.

Here for big verses but can't find for minor verses, though this does imply it can be less than 3.
iicr there were threads before where it was fine with a minimum of 2 staff members

 

[Ednaxel2]

If I'm wrong I'll immediately try to get another staff member

 

[Hypertornado099]

Discussion rules:

Here for big verses but can't find for minor verses, though this does imply it can be less than 3.
iicr there were threads before where it was fine with a minimum of 2 staff members

Okay thanks