Profile Deletion Requests Thread (New forum)

[Abstractions]

how about I make a story from WoD, can that get a profile because "it's like SCP"? I wouldn't agree with that in the slightest.

Well the caveat there is that we wouldn't allow creators to make pages for their own creations so no, you wouldn't be able to make that profile.

 

[Udlmaster]

Well the caveat there is that we wouldn't allow creators to make pages for their own creations so no, you wouldn't be able to make that profile.

It's not my own creation. It's Alfabruva's. I would love for it to be me who made Hunter; the Parenting because it's the bomb, but it's definitely not me.

 

[DaReaperMan]

I mean, you can. How do you think Elminster came into existence?

And what do you think the Composite Adventurer profile would have been?

What about the two would be different in this case? They are both very specifically designed to provide room for people to write their own stories within the setting.

Is that character officially recognized by any written media for official WoD? I think this sets a very bad precedent for tabletop verses as a whole, you know, unofficial things are now canon because yes, if Hunter: The Parenting is officially recognized in WoD media, sure, why the hell not connect em. But if it's a story not officially recognized, even if it's popular, I don't agree to it scaling to WoD anything. SCP gets away with it because it's extended canon is both popular and is STUPIDLY strict with what can be included or not by the folks in the site themselves.

Adventurers if I recall are officially recognized.

See above. Jist of it is, WoD is a tabletop that lets you tell a story, but isnt at all strict about what precisely can be included, SCP is extremely strict about what can be included in the extended canon officially, with the only thing we have added on is an upvote requirement on them to be included for CRTs and the like.

Also things like the Stake Jacket are pretty much optional equipment and just being able to take a lot of pain is literally stamina.

 

[Abstractions]

It's not my own creation. It's Alfabruva's. I would love for it to be me who made Hunter; the Parenting because it's the bomb, but it's definitely not me.

I was responding to Reaper's hypothetical directly, but okay.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

For once I'd like if people kept SCP out of their mouth when they bring it up as an example of fan works.

SCP is a collaborative fiction archive. The people who write for it can be anyone, true. However, if it's SCP, it is SCP. Anything written on the site is part of it and not fanfiction unless explicitly stated to be. And those are usually relegated to non-canon crossovers with other pieces of media.

And contrary to popular belief, everything in SCP is canon. Both in a meta sense and in-universe sense, there is an underlying mechanic that makes all fiction in SCP true canon even if it contradicts itself due to how Swann's observation works. And as for what constitutes as SCP in the real world, anything that authors on the site create for the site is canon. Copyright laws do be like that.

I would appreciate it greatly if people stop bringing up SCP to justify putting fractured canons and actual fanfictions on the site.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Who wakes up in the morning and goes "Oh boy I can't wait to read this SCP article"

 

[DaReaperMan]

To add onto my own point and Ovens' post, it's easier to write an entire physical book and get it published than it is to get something officially into the SCP Extended Canon, anyone can write for it, yes, but there are many a hoop to jump through to get it officially into it.

Who wakes up in the morning and goes "Oh boy I can't wait to read this SCP article"

People who like the idea of the verse also derailing

 

[Udlmaster]

Is that character officially recognized by any written media for official WoD?

Official as in what? As in licensed? We'll get to that.

Firstly, their Kickstarter goals actually let people do exactly that, and also be write parts of the books themselves.

For example, Vampire; the Masquerade: Bloodlines was not official, it was written by people completely disconnected from Whitewolf, Paradox or Oynx Publishing (the Publishers of all WoD's stuff) but they brought it into official print anyway.

Like, I don't think you actually have any idea about how WoD works.

Let me illuminate so we don't get some pretentious "I know more about this than you do" nonesense anymore.

Within Paradox Interactive, there's something called "The Dark Pack", the reason why often people can't make their characters made into print is because of Copyright issues.

The Dark Pack is the officially sanctioned World of Darkness Fan support. Functionally, when you make content for WoD, you'd agree to the Dark Pack terms and conditions, and this lets you make content for World of Darkness without causing Copyright issues.

What this means is, they functionally own any product made by people under the Dark Pack as it remains their intellectual property and the user (in this case Alfabrusa) gets to use their intellectual property.

Here's the most clear excerpt from the agreement;

"Subject to your compliance with the terms and conditions of this Agreement, Paradox hereby grants you a personal, non-sublicensable, royalty-free, revocable right and license to use the World of Darkness IP for types of content listed in this policy."

I think this sets a very bad precedent for tabletop verses as a whole, you know, unofficial things are now canon because yes, if Hunter: The Parenting is officially recognized in WoD media, sure, why the hell not connect em.

The "unofficial things" you're talking about are characters, actual tangible elements that influences the Greater WoD series.

This isn't "My OC beats the Lady of Pain on a weekly basis and killed the GM.", they're not only very reasonable characters, but the story itself is Written within the story of WoD and uses all the official lore.

Secondly, no, it's not a 'bad precedent'. Tabletop games have been making people's works "canon" since before SCP was even conceptualized, what we're talking about is a Licensed story which follows all the lore of WoD being given character profiles.

This isn't adding in elements to a cosmology that aren't already there, it's not being used to inflate statistics, it exists only to bring characters into the WoD umbrella on the website.

There is no new precedent being made here that isn't already covered by the SCP profiles, there is no extraordinary factors to the Hunter; the Parenting character profiles.

You are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Adventurers if I recall are officially recognized.

They aren't. Not the composite adventurer.

The Composite adventurer is an entirely theoretical entity with no existing examples in the story, they are not an extant being.

 

[Shmooply]

On the topic of fanworks...
Requesting the deletion of Bacteria for complicated reasons. We haven't really come to a conclusion on whether or not Backrooms profiles should be allowed, as the original Backrooms is literally just a random copypasta on 4chan, but Bacteria and other related works are fanworks from various communities ranging from Discord servers to even wikis dedicated to the copypasta.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Official as in what? As in licensed? We'll get to that.

Firstly, their Kickstarter goals actually let people do exactly that, and also be write parts of the books themselves.

For example, Vampire; the Masquerade: Bloodlines was not official, it was written by people completely disconnected from Whitewolf, Paradox or Oynx Publishing (the Publishers of all WoD's stuff) but they brought it into official print anyway.

Like, I don't think you actually have any idea about how WoD works.

Let me illuminate so we don't get some pretentious "I know more about this than you do" nonesense anymore.

Within Paradox Interactive, there's something called "The Dark Pack", the reason why often people can't make their characters made into print is because of Copyright issues.

The Dark Pack is the officially sanctioned World of Darkness Fan support. Functionally, when you make content for WoD, you'd agree to the Dark Pack terms and conditions, and this lets you make content for World of Darkness without causing Copyright issues.

What this means is, they functionally own any product made by people under the Dark Pack as it remains their intellectual property and the user (in this case Alfabrusa) gets to use their intellectual property.

Here's the most clear excerpt from the agreement;

"Subject to your compliance with the terms and conditions of this Agreement, Paradox hereby grants you a personal, non-sublicensable, royalty-free, revocable right and license to use the World of Darkness IP for types of content listed in this policy."

The "unofficial things" you're talking about are characters, actual tangible elements that influences the Greater WoD series.

This isn't "My OC beats the Lady of Pain on a weekly basis and killed the GM.", they're not only very reasonable characters, but the story itself is Written within the story of WoD and uses all the official lore.

Secondly, no, it's not a 'bad precedent'. Tabletop games have been making people's works "canon" since before SCP was even conceptualized, what we're talking about is a Licensed story which follows all the lore of WoD being given character profiles.

This isn't adding in elements to a cosmology that aren't already there, it's not being used to inflate statistics, it exists only to bring characters into the WoD umbrella on the website.

There is no new precedent being made here that isn't already covered by the SCP profiles, there is no extraordinary factors to the Hunter; the Parenting character profiles.

You are making a mountain out of a mole hill.


They aren't. Not the composite adventurer.

The Composite adventurer is an entirely theoretical entity with no existing examples in the story, they are not an extant being.

Yeah this is perfectly fine I feel. Although a policy on such things should be made to clarify canonicity rules and such to avoid misinterpretation.

 

[Udlmaster]

Yeah this is perfectly fine I feel. Although a policy on such things should be made to clarify canonicity rules and such to avoid misinterpretation.

I agree, we don't want needless things like someone creating Mathiverse in WoD and justifying it using the Dark Pack licensing agreement.

I feel it should be clear as to what should be allowed and what shouldn't using a "Reasonable man" test. Basically thinking "Would it be reasonable to add X in under the rules."

 

[DaReaperMan]

Official as in what? As in licensed? We'll get to that.

Firstly, their Kickstarter goals actually let people do exactly that, and also be write parts of the books themselves.

For example, Vampire; the Masquerade: Bloodlines was not official, it was written by people completely disconnected from Whitewolf, Paradox or Oynx Publishing (the Publishers of all WoD's stuff) but they brought it into official print anyway.

Like, I don't think you actually have any idea about how WoD works.

Let me illuminate so we don't get some pretentious "I know more about this than you do" nonesense anymore.

Within Paradox Interactive, there's something called "The Dark Pack", the reason why often people can't make their characters made into print is because of Copyright issues.

The Dark Pack is the officially sanctioned World of Darkness Fan support. Functionally, when you make content for WoD, you'd agree to the Dark Pack terms and conditions, and this lets you make content for World of Darkness without causing Copyright issues.

What this means is, they functionally own any product made by people under the Dark Pack as it remains their intellectual property and the user (in this case Alfabrusa) gets to use their intellectual property.

Here's the most clear excerpt from the agreement;

"Subject to your compliance with the terms and conditions of this Agreement, Paradox hereby grants you a personal, non-sublicensable, royalty-free, revocable right and license to use the World of Darkness IP for types of content listed in this policy."

The "unofficial things" you're talking about are characters, actual tangible elements that influences the Greater WoD series.

This isn't "My OC beats the Lady of Pain on a weekly basis and killed the GM.", they're not only very reasonable characters, but the story itself is Written within the story of WoD and uses all the official lore.

Secondly, no, it's not a 'bad precedent'. Tabletop games have been making people's works "canon" since before SCP was even conceptualized, what we're talking about is a Licensed story which follows all the lore of WoD being given character profiles.

This isn't adding in elements to a cosmology that aren't already there, it's not being used to inflate statistics, it exists only to bring characters into the WoD umbrella on the website.

There is no new precedent being made here that isn't already covered by the SCP profiles, there is no extraordinary factors to the Hunter; the Parenting character profiles.

You are making a mountain out of a mole hill.


They aren't. Not the composite adventurer.

The Composite adventurer is an entirely theoretical entity with no existing examples in the story, they are not an extant being.

Thank you, that's all you needed to explain, no bullshit, no this no that, just get to the core point. The only issue here NOW is that Markus's profile lacks scans or references for mostly everything and espeically why he or any of the vamps he fights are 9-B in the first place and the fact Pyotr has an Anti-feat to his durability(Which is why I think he's a glass cannon).

So what needs to be done now is to just put Markus at Average Human LS as he's got no reason to scale to Door who'd be Above Average Human at minimum, get his striking strength sorted out whichever way it should, probably just wall class, and move the pain stuff over to his stamina section. I'll probably cover why he'd resist Kevin's mind manipulation later.

 

[Udlmaster]

So what needs to be done now is to just put Markus at Average Human LS as he's got no reason to scale to Door who'd be Above Average Human at minimum, get his striking strength sorted out whichever way it should, probably just wall class, and move the pain stuff over to his stamina section. I'll probably cover why he'd resist Kevin's mind manipulation later.

Average humans in WoD are just way more powerful than they are in real life.

Take for a moment that Big-D beat a Methuselah, Methuselah at the lowest are 7-A at least.

But not only did he fight a Methuselah, he fought a Lasombra Methuselah, who literally have a 6-C feat.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Average humans in WoD are just way more powerful than they are in real life.

Take for a moment that Big-D beat a Methuselah, Methuselah at the lowest are 7-A at least.

But not only did he fight a Methuselah, he fought a Lasombra Methuselah, who literally have a 6-C feat.

then just superhuman-

Big D also got his head cracked open by a fall from a second story window so...

 

[Udlmaster]

then just superhuman-

Big D also got his head cracked open by a fall from a second story window so...

I'm aware.

I'm not saying he punched out the Vampire, I'm saying he somehow killed one. The means is unknown, but apparently he did.

 

[Udlmaster]

The only issue here NOW is that Markus's profile lacks scans or references for mostly everything and espeically why he or any of the vamps he fights are 9-B in the first place and the fact Pyotr has an Anti-feat to his durability(Which is why I think he's a glass cannon).

The horrible referencing system shalt not touch the WoD profiles.

 

[Udlmaster]

then just superhuman-

Big D also got his head cracked open by a fall from a second story window so...

Let's take this to the WoD discussion thread now the issue has been cleared up

 

[Shmooply]

On the topic of fanworks...
Requesting the deletion of Bacteria for complicated reasons. We haven't really come to a conclusion on whether or not Backrooms profiles should be allowed, as the original Backrooms is literally just a random copypasta on 4chan, but Bacteria and other related works are fanworks from various communities ranging from Discord servers to even wikis dedicated to the copypasta.

Bump?

 

[Tllmbrg]

Zork

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Stats seem to be wonky, 9-A has no scans and none of the abilities have evidence to back them up
Also the Troll at least to me doesn't seem to cause more damage then one can with an axe that size, so idk how his durability backscales, also I'd like to mention the only supporter is banned so

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Only page on it needs an update, @MrKerf or @InfiniteDay might be able to help with that but if not then well

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No calc to support 8-C rating and simply guesses, the only supporter on the verse page has been last active in 2019

Witch Hunter

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All the ratings outside 1 are calcless, and the one that has a calc is one that isn't even approved
Only supporter has been last active on 2019

Twilight (Verse)

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No supporters and only page barely has scans and the reference only thing is iffy asf

Top Wing

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Literally no pages for the verse

Thomas and Friends

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I'd say the verse more so needs a cleanup, but iirc the franchise is fairly large so it's mainly up to @Amelia_Lonelyheart to decide if we're better off deleting it

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Just poor quality pages, ratings seemingly are pulled out of nowhere for various things and no explanations for abilities
The people listed on the verse page also seem to have been inactive for a while

 

[deonment]

Bump?

It should stay to my knowledge as although it is based on the original backroom copypasta is still a standalone work that can function perfectly fine without it. And as such should be kept on site

 

[Armorchompy]

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Only page on it needs an update, @MrKerf or @InfiniteDay might be able to help with that but if not then well

Needing an update isn't grounds for deletion, dude.

Thomas and Friends

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I'd say the verse more so needs a cleanup, but iirc the franchise is fairly large so it's mainly up to @Amelia_Lonelyheart to decide if we're better off deleting it

It's pretty basic, can be left as is with maybe some minor fixes you can surely carry through yourself. Also tell her on discord.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Needing an update isn't grounds for deletion, dude.

Well that depends on if they're willing to update it or not
If not well it's not really in a good state imo

 

[Armorchompy]

Well that depends on if they're willing to update it or not
If not well it's not really in a good state imo

Profile's fine the way it is, if somewhat incomplete, that's good enough in my book.

I was also thinking I might check the verse myself but that's neither here nor there.

 

[Tllmbrg]

What about the rest then?

 

[Armorchompy]

idk

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you, that's all you needed to explain, no bullshit, no this no that, just get to the core point. The only issue here NOW is that Markus's profile lacks scans or references for mostly everything and espeically why he or any of the vamps he fights are 9-B in the first place and the fact Pyotr has an Anti-feat to his durability(Which is why I think he's a glass cannon).

So what needs to be done now is to just put Markus at Average Human LS as he's got no reason to scale to Door who'd be Above Average Human at minimum, get his striking strength sorted out whichever way it should, probably just wall class, and move the pain stuff over to his stamina section. I'll probably cover why he'd resist Kevin's mind manipulation later.

Can somebody explain the context here in an easy to understand manner please? We should obviously only feature characters that have been officially recognised as being canon by the license holders for each verse, not ones from personal game campaigns or fanfiction stories.

 

[Shmooply]

Can somebody explain the context here in an easy to understand manner please? We should obviously only feature characters that have been officially recognised as being canon by the license holders for each verse, not ones from personal game campaigns or fanfiction stories.

The Dark Pack is the officially sanctioned World of Darkness Fan support. Functionally, when you make content for WoD, you'd agree to the Dark Pack terms and conditions, and this lets you make content for World of Darkness without causing Copyright issues.

What this means is, they functionally own any product made by people under the Dark Pack as it remains their intellectual property and the user (in this case Alfabrusa) gets to use their intellectual property.

Here's the most clear excerpt from the agreement;

"Subject to your compliance with the terms and conditions of this Agreement, Paradox hereby grants you a personal, non-sublicensable, royalty-free, revocable right and license to use the World of Darkness

Uld explains it here, and after this pretty much everyone agreed the profile should stay.

 

[Abstractions]

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Only supporter has been inactive for over a year and the stats seem like guess work + no scans

The only problem Town of Salem has is that the pages are minimalistic because there isn't much else to go off of, the statistics are hardly guess work and are actually how the game functions.

 

[Antvasima]

Zork

For detailed information about this series, visit the Zork Wiki. Zork is a text-based adventure game trilogy released by Infocom on the computer in 1980. Essentially, the game has no graphics, everything is shown purely by text as if it were an interactive book. A relatively weak verse, the...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Stats seem to be wonky, 9-A has no scans and none of the abilities have evidence to back them up
Also the Troll at least to me doesn't seem to cause more damage then one can with an axe that size, so idk how his durability backscales, also I'd like to mention the only supporter is banned so

Yaiba (Verse)

Yaiba, also known as Legend of the Swordmaster Yaiba (剣勇伝説YAIBA Ken'yū Densetsu Yaiba?), is a shōnen manga series by Gosho Aoyama (the mangaka of the never-ending Detective Conan/ Case Closed). The light-hearted manga is about an adventuring samurai named Yaiba Kurogane (鉄 刃 Kurogane Yaiba?) who...

vsbattles.fandom.com

No supporters on verse page, no scans for P&A and the ratings are messy asf alongside using Naruto Forum calcs

Yamato Takeru

Yamato Takeru is a movie made in 1994 by Toho, the creator of the Godzilla franchise. It is based on Japanese legends, featuring mythological gods and monsters. Yamato Takeru received an almost 40 episode long anime series based on it as well as OVAs. In the movie canon, this verse has lower Top...

vsbattles.fandom.com

No supporters and no scans for the most part, not to mention some questionable scaling

World of Horror

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vsbattles.fandom.com

Only page on it needs an update, @MrKerf or @InfiniteDay might be able to help with that but if not then well

Witchcraft Works

For detailed information about this series, visit the Witch Craft Works Wiki. The story focuses on Honoka Takamiya, a young student with a normal life, who is involved in different conflicts with witches, being saved by his classmate, Ayaka Kagari. Eventually, Honoka discovers that much of her...

vsbattles.fandom.com

No calc to support 8-C rating and simply guesses, the only supporter on the verse page has been last active in 2019

Witch Hunter

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vsbattles.fandom.com

All the ratings outside 1 are calcless, and the one that has a calc is one that isn't even approved
Only supporter has been last active on 2019

Twilight (Verse)

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vsbattles.fandom.com

No supporters, calcs are from Naruto Forum and the pages seem to composite novels and films

Town of Salem (Verse)

For detailed information about this series, visit the Town of Salem Wiki Town of Salem is a browser-based game created by BlankMediaGames that challenges players on their ability to convincingly lie as well as detect when other players are lying. The game ranges from 7 to 15 players. These...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Only supporter has been inactive for over a year and the stats seem like guess work + no scans

Tower of Saviors

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vsbattles.fandom.com

No supporters and only page barely has scans and the reference only thing is iffy asf

Top Wing

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vsbattles.fandom.com

Literally no pages for the verse

Thomas and Friends

For detailed information about this series, visit the Thomas & Friends Wiki. Thomas & Friends (originally known as Thomas The Tank Engine & Friends or Thomas the Tank Engine; also known as Thomas & Friends: Big World! Big Adventures! in the twenty-second season) is a British children's...

vsbattles.fandom.com

I'd say the verse more so needs a cleanup, but iirc the franchise is fairly large so it's mainly up to @Amelia_Lonelyheart to decide if we're better off deleting it

The Secret Life of Pets

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Just poor quality pages, ratings seemingly are pulled out of nowhere for various things and no explanations for abilities
The people listed on the verse page also seem to have been inactive for a while

It is extremely important that you are not overzealous regarding pages that should be deleted. If all statistics in a popular verse are based on linked to accepted Narutoforums calculations, they can stay as far as I am concerned for example, even though it would be better to copy the relevant calculations to blogs in our wiki.

Neither is a lack of supporters a sufficiently large problem to warrant deletion as long as the statistics are not based on guesswork.

What you should focus on are mainly verses with very low-quality character profile pages with completely unreliable statistics. Ones that can easily be resqued via simple improvements should preferably remain.

That said, some of the above examples may very well genuinely qualify for deletion. I haven't had the time to investigate properly, and would appreciate help in that regard from our administrators and thread moderators.

 

[Damage3245]

Witch Hunter, from Tllmbrg's list, at least needs completely overhauling for the statistics or it needs deleting.

Here's some examples from a few of the profiles:

Spoiler

Attack Potency At least Multi-City Block level, Town level via power-scaling (She is considered one of the top Witch Hunters, also much stronger than her brother, can casually make huge earth formations, possibly higher)

Speed: Hypersonic via power-scaling

Lifting Strength: Superhuman

Striking Strength: Human Class

Durability: At least Multi-City Block level via power-scaling

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Attack Potency: At least Large Building level, likely higher (Her strength is noted to be above the likes of Ryuhwan, as she was confident she could defeat him in battle based solely on her superior strength and speed, East said she can potentially become stronger then Varete)

Speed: At least Supersonic+, likely higher (Has blocked and avoided many quick attacks from Ryuhwan's bullets)

Lifting Strength: Class 5 (Has shown enough raw strength to lift her sword despite Words' using his powers to increase the sword's weight. The resulting act caused the ground at her feet to crack and crumble under her body while she herself lifted the sword with casual ease)

Striking Strength: At least Large Building Class

Durability: At least Large Building level, likely higher

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Attack Potency: At least Large Building level (Cougar can make very large explosions), likely higher

Speed: Supersonic+ (Can compete with characters at this level)

Lifting Strength: Superhuman

Striking Strength: Unknown

Durability: At least Building Level, likely higher

 

[Antvasima]

Uld explains it here, and after this pretty much everyone agreed the profile should stay.

Please elaborate. If all that is said is that people who buy the game are allowed to create their own characters, that is still not sufficient grounds to include them according to our rules, which I strongly agree with. It is much better to move such characters to the FC/OC wiki in order to not muddle up the distinction between the areas that we focus on.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Neither is a lack of supporters a sufficiently large problem to warrant deletion as long as the statistics are not based on guesswork.

What you should focus on are mainly verses with very low-quality character profile pages with completely unreliable statistics. Ones that can easily be resqued via simple improvements should preferably remain.

I bring lack of supporters since a lot of this are of poor quality, so there's not really anyone to go and ping to try and revise the verse

 

[Antvasima]

The only problem Town of Salem has is that the pages are minimalistic because there isn't much else to go off of, the statistics are hardly guess work and are actually how the game functions.

Witch Hunter, from Tllmbrg's list, at least needs completely overhauling for the statistics or it needs deleting.

Here's some examples from a few of the profiles:

Spoiler

Attack Potency At least Multi-City Block level, Town level via power-scaling (She is considered one of the top Witch Hunters, also much stronger than her brother, can casually make huge earth formations, possibly higher)

Speed: Hypersonic via power-scaling

Lifting Strength: Superhuman

Striking Strength: Human Class

Durability: At least Multi-City Block level via power-scaling

---

Attack Potency: At least Large Building level, likely higher (Her strength is noted to be above the likes of Ryuhwan, as she was confident she could defeat him in battle based solely on her superior strength and speed, East said she can potentially become stronger then Varete)

Speed: At least Supersonic+, likely higher (Has blocked and avoided many quick attacks from Ryuhwan's bullets)

Lifting Strength: Class 5 (Has shown enough raw strength to lift her sword despite Words' using his powers to increase the sword's weight. The resulting act caused the ground at her feet to crack and crumble under her body while she herself lifted the sword with casual ease)

Striking Strength: At least Large Building Class

Durability: At least Large Building level, likely higher

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Attack Potency: At least Large Building level (Cougar can make very large explosions), likely higher

Speed: Supersonic+ (Can compete with characters at this level)

Lifting Strength: Superhuman

Striking Strength: Unknown

Durability: At least Building Level, likely higher

Thank you to both of you and Armorchompy for helping out with quality control. I definitely do not want pages to be deleted indiscriminately.

 

[Antvasima]

I bring lack of supporters since a lot of this are of poor quality, so there's not really anyone to go and ping to try and revise the verse

Okay. That seems more reliable then, if you mean that the pages are based on guesswork in combination.

 

[Tllmbrg]

The only problem Town of Salem has is that the pages are minimalistic because there isn't much else to go off of, the statistics are hardly guess work and are actually how the game functions.

Medusa (Town of Salem)

A blind old woman sits deadly still on an armchair, brushing a finger over the raised dots printed on the pages of her book. An esteemed Medium, forced to quit the job due to vision problems. A normal introduction, yet from then on, the Town began labeling her with a moniker she would covertly...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Idk, the AP here seems like it just upscales from 9-C who isn't even peak of the tier so and that applies to many pages
At the very least the 9-B pages need to be altered since they rely on scaling to something that doesn't have a page (The Godfather)

 

[Antvasima]

Can somebody explain the context here in an easy to understand manner please? We should obviously only feature characters that have been officially recognised as being canon by the license holders for each verse, not ones from personal game campaigns or fanfiction stories.

Please elaborate. If all that is said is that people who buy the game are allowed to create their own characters, that is still not sufficient grounds to include them according to our rules, which I strongly agree with. It is much better to move such characters to the FC/OC wiki in order to not muddle up the distinction between the areas that we focus on.

@Sir_Ovens

 

[MrKerf]

World of Horror

For detailed information about this franchise, visit the World of Horror Wiki. World of Horror is a 1-bit cosmic horror game developed by a one man team. The game is highly inspired by the works of H.P. Lovecraft and Junji Ito, and uses many of their tricks, affects, and concepts to pass off an...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Only page on it needs an update, @MrKerf or @InfiniteDay might be able to help with that but if not then well

Yeah, I have almost everything ready, just need to compile it in the profile. Been busy lately, but I'll do it.
Also, it mainly needs a visual rework for better readibility and info from latest version.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. That seems more reliable then, if you mean that the pages are based on guesswork in combination.

Also, thank you for helping out. It is very appreciated. Just please try to be cautious so only pages with genuine serious problems are deleted.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Zork

For detailed information about this series, visit the Zork Wiki. Zork is a text-based adventure game trilogy released by Infocom on the computer in 1980. Essentially, the game has no graphics, everything is shown purely by text as if it were an interactive book. A relatively weak verse, the...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Stats seem to be wonky, 9-A has no scans and none of the abilities have evidence to back them up
Also the Troll at least to me doesn't seem to cause more damage then one can with an axe that size, so idk how his durability backscales, also I'd like to mention the only supporter is banned so

Yaiba (Verse)

Yaiba, also known as Legend of the Swordmaster Yaiba (剣勇伝説YAIBA Ken'yū Densetsu Yaiba?), is a shōnen manga series by Gosho Aoyama (the mangaka of the never-ending Detective Conan/ Case Closed). The light-hearted manga is about an adventuring samurai named Yaiba Kurogane (鉄 刃 Kurogane Yaiba?) who...

vsbattles.fandom.com

No supporters on verse page, no scans for P&A and the ratings are messy asf alongside using Naruto Forum calcs

Yamato Takeru

Yamato Takeru is a movie made in 1994 by Toho, the creator of the Godzilla franchise. It is based on Japanese legends, featuring mythological gods and monsters. Yamato Takeru received an almost 40 episode long anime series based on it as well as OVAs. In the movie canon, this verse has lower Top...

vsbattles.fandom.com

No supporters and no scans for the most part, not to mention some questionable scaling

Witchcraft Works

For detailed information about this series, visit the Witch Craft Works Wiki. The story focuses on Honoka Takamiya, a young student with a normal life, who is involved in different conflicts with witches, being saved by his classmate, Ayaka Kagari. Eventually, Honoka discovers that much of her...

vsbattles.fandom.com

No calc to support 8-C rating and simply guesses, the only supporter on the verse page has been last active in 2019

Top Wing

For detailed information about this series, visit the Top Wing Wiki. Taking place on Big Swirl Island, an island inhabited by birds and other animals, Top Wing follows four eager young birds—Swift, Brody, Penny, and Rod—who work together at Top Wing Academy as new cadets to earn their wings by...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Literally no pages for the verse

The Secret Life of Pets

For detailed information about this series, visit the The Secret Life of Pets Wiki. The Secret Life of Pets is a 3D computer-animated comedy film franchise produced by Illumination Entertainment. It is directed by Chris Renaud, co-directed by Yarrow Cheney, written by Brian Lynch, Cinco Paul and...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Just poor quality pages, ratings seemingly are pulled out of nowhere for various things and no explanations for abilities
The people listed on the verse page also seem to have been inactive for a while

Anyways what about this?
I assume I can start deleting Witch Hunter at least

 

[Antvasima]

@Armorchompy @Abstractions @Damage3245

Which pages are fine for Tllmbrg to delete?