Professional Wrestling General Discussion Thread

[Propellus]

And also, John Cena should have nonexistent physiology since nobody can see him

 

[Pikaman]

I mean, the Brogue Kick has taken out many wrestlers, so I'm not too sure.

True, but that’s usually after or in the middle of a gruelling match, the Brogue Kick hasn’t got many one shots to it’s name, heck, God Tiers like Reigns have gotten up from them (albeit very dazed) in a matter of seconds sometimes

 

[RandomGuy2345]

True, but that’s usually after or in the middle of a gruelling match, the Brogue Kick hasn’t got many one shots to it’s name, heck, God Tiers like Reigns have gotten up from them (albeit very dazed) in a matter of seconds sometimes

The Brogue Kick was legit temporarily banned due to how dangerous it was.

The Brogue Kick also gave Chad Patton chronic neck pain, and mental trauma.

The Brogue Kick also causes extreme nerve damage, and tingling in the extremities.

 

[ShockingPsychic]

I don't think they should have the at least 9-C rating. They have plenty of 9-B feats, they're just 9-B.

 

[Pikaman]

The Brogue Kick was legit temporarily banned due to how dangerous it was.

The Brogue Kick also gave Chad Patton chronic neck pain, and mental trauma.

The Brogue Kick also causes extreme nerve damage, and tingling in the extremities.

I do get how powerful the Brogue kick is, it’s just.. if the God Tier superstars can survive being put through a table, which is Wall level, and they can hurt each other... then they’re wall level. It could be possible the Brogue kick just isn’t on that same level of power as the God Tiers, or the PSI brogue kick was an “anti-outlier” that wasn’t it at it’s best

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I do get how powerful the Brogue kick is, it’s just.. if the God Tier superstars can survive being put through a table, which is Wall level, and they can hurt each other... then they’re wall level. It could be possible the Brogue kick just isn’t on that same level of power as the God Tiers, or the PSI brogue kick was an “anti-outlier” that wasn’t it at it’s best

That's fair.

I'll remove the 9-C ratings then.

 

[Pikaman]

In terms of AP and Tiers for the In-Verse Tiers we have now, idk if these have already been figured out but I put something together.

God Tiers: (9-B) 1.94 Megajoules (Scale to the explosion feat)

Top Tiers: (9-B) 0.27 Megajoules (Table Feat)

High Tiers: (9-B) < 0.27 Megajoules

Mid Tiers: (At least 9-C, likely 9-B) << 0.27 Megajoules

Low Tiers: (At least 9-C, possibly 9-B) <<< 0.27 Megajoules

 

[Pikaman]

Idk how much help this is but Great Khali’s crushing of Rey Mysterio’s head is 0.1 Megajoules

 

[Tonygameman]

Amateur, WWE vs Peppa Pig matches are where it’s at

Fools, it is Shrek's turn. And he's got moves to bust himself up. (unless those upgrades are getting up, @Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E)

 

[Pikaman]

In terms of AP and Tiers for the In-Verse Tiers we have now, idk if these have already been figured out but I put something together.

God Tiers: (9-B) 1.94 Megajoules (Scale to the explosion feat)

Top Tiers: (9-B) 0.27 Megajoules (Table Feat)

High Tiers: (9-B) < 0.27 Megajoules

Mid Tiers: (At least 9-C, likely 9-B) << 0.27 Megajoules

Low Tiers: (At least 9-C, possibly 9-B) <<< 0.27 Megajoules

It should be safe to apply the 1.94 megajoule value given that Vince isn’t a strong character in the wwe fiction I mean he did get his ass kicked by Donald trump (1.94 megajoule Donald trump)

Yeah, this was my next question, I know it’s currently the top calc we have, but shouldn’t the God Tiers upscale from McMahon? It’s convenient to just have the biggest calc as the god tier AP but they’re probably >> the feat

 

[Hunterzillas]

Yeah, this was my next question, I know it’s currently the top calc we have, but shouldn’t the God Tiers upscale from Shane? It’s convenient to just have the biggest calc as the god tier AP but they’re probably >> the feat

What's the explosion feat from?

 

[Pikaman]

What's the explosion feat from?

Shane Mcmanhon tanks an explosion

vsbattles.fandom.com

This

sorry I got my McMahons mixed up in the op before I edited it

 

[RandomGuy2345]

We can legit pit the WWE characters against Saitama

 

[RandomGuy2345]

God Tiers: (9-B) 1.94 Megajoules (Scale to the explosion feat)

Looks just fine.

Top Tiers: (9-B) 0.27 Megajoules (Table Feat)

Top Tiers are the only tiers in the verse that can do any significant, lasting damage to the God Tiers, so I'd say they're ≤1.94 Megajoules.

High Tiers: (9-B) < 0.27 Megajoules

High Tiers should be 0.27 Megajoules.

Mid Tiers: (At least 9-C, likely 9-B) << 0.27 Megajoules

Low Tiers: (At least 9-C, possibly 9-B) <<< 0.27 Megajoules

These look just fine.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

1. Do you guys want me to apply the 1.94 Megajoules feat to the current WWE profiles?
2. Do you guys also want me to make a WWE Matchups Thread, where we think of good matchups for the characters?

 

[Pikaman]

We can legit pit the WWE characters against Saitama

Ngl some of the more haxxed top tiers like Demon Bálor would take this Saitama has the AP advantage but the superstars have the advantage in mobility, variety of arsenal, martial arts experience, and intelligence

 

[Pikaman]

1. Do you guys want me to apply the 1.94 Megajoules feat to the current WWE profiles?
2. Do you guys also want me to make a WWE Matchups Thread, where we think of good matchups for the characters?

I think the 1.94 Megajoules feat is fine but idk if there’s been staff opinion on it yet
That would be a cool idea for a thread yeah

 

[Pikaman]

Ngl some of the more haxxed top tiers like Demon Bálor would take this Saitama has the AP advantage but the superstars have the advantage in mobility, variety of arsenal, martial arts experience, and intelligence

A >2.5x AP advantage is no use when your opponent is 100x the trained fighter you are and has way more options

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Ngl some of the more haxxed top tiers like Demon Bálor would take this Saitama has the AP advantage but the superstars have the advantage in mobility, variety of arsenal, martial arts experience, and intelligence

Would some of the lesser haxxed ones like John Cena, Big Show, and Chris Jericho be a more fair matchup?

That would be a cool idea for a thread yeah

Cool! I'll make the thread and I'll invite some people to join.

A >2.5x AP advantage is no use when your opponent is 100x the trained fighter you are and has way more options

Fair point.

 

[Pikaman]

Ngl some of the more haxxed top tiers like Demon Bálor would take this Saitama has the AP advantage but the superstars have the advantage in mobility, variety of arsenal, martial arts experience, and intelligence

Actually, speaking of intelligence and Demon Bálor, what would its intelligence be, animalistic?

 

[Pikaman]

Would some of the lesser haxxed ones like John Cena, Big Show, and Chris Jericho be a more fair matchup?

They wouldn’t be stomps if that’s what you’re asking, I think Big Show would be a funny match up to see tbh-

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Actually, speaking of intelligence and Demon Bálor, what would its intelligence be, animalistic?

I'd probably say Average-ish. He still has the same level of skill as Finn Balor in base form, but he seems to attack in more so of a blind rage than actual strategizing.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

They wouldn’t be stomps if that’s what you’re asking, I think Big Show would be a funny match up to see tbh-

Agreed.

 

[Propellus]

And this reminds me, I really gotta get back into watching WWE

 

[RandomGuy2345]

And this reminds me, I really gotta get back into watching WWE

The company's a mixed bag right now.

Some good, some bad.

 

[Propellus]

And also, someone's gonna have to make the verse page for this

 

[RandomGuy2345]

And also, someone's gonna have to make the verse page for this

Idk who's willing to do that.

We still got a couple of more things to revise for the verse (i.e. LS, clarifying the power-scaling, etc.).

 

[Pikaman]

Back to this thread lol, I wanna revise the Power Scaling for the Verse before we make it official, so what tier would you guys say Mr McMahon is/was?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Back to this thread lol, I wanna revise the Power Scaling for the Verse before we make it official, so what tier would you guys say Mr McMahon is/was?

Top Tier at best tbh, as that tier and God Tiers stomp him.

Vince relies on intelligence, weapons, and outside help in order to defeat wrestlers on this level.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Top Tiers: (9-B) 0.27 Megajoules (Table Feat)

Can you link the feat where the 0.27 Megajoules feat comes from?

 

[Pikaman]

Can you link the feat where the 0.27 Megajoules feat comes from?

0.27 Megajoules is what’s listed on the profiles for breaking a wooden table, but funnily enough, it uses a square table, the tables in WWE are rectangular so it should actually be listed as 0.31073163660000003 Megajoules, or just 0.31 to round to 2 decimal places.

 

[Pikaman]

0.27 Megajoules is what’s listed on the profiles for breaking a wooden table, but funnily enough, it uses a square table, the tables in WWE are rectangular so it should actually be listed as 0.31073163660000003 Megajoules, or just 0.31 to round to 2 decimal places.

So uh, 0.4 Megajoules Upgrade yay

 

[Pikaman]

Top Tier at best tbh, as that tier and God Tiers stomp him.

Vince relies on intelligence, weapons, and outside help in order to defeat wrestlers on this level.

So would you say high tier then AP wise?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

0.27 Megajoules is what’s listed on the profiles for breaking a wooden table, but funnily enough, it uses a square table, the tables in WWE are rectangular so it should actually be listed as 0.31073163660000003 Megajoules, or just 0.31 to round to 2 decimal places.

Wrestlers are capable of through 2 tables, which would make the verse 621.4 Kilojoules, or 0.62 Megajoules.

 

[Pikaman]

Wrestlers are capable of through 2 tables, which would make the verse 621.4 Kilojoules, or 0.62 Megajoules.

Nice! Really nice upgrade for the people how downscale from the God Tiers

 

[RandomGuy2345]

So would you say high tier then AP wise?

God Tier: >1.94 Megajoules (Stomp Mr. McMahon)

Top Tier: 1.94 Megajoules (Defeats Mr. McMahon with some effort)

High Tier: 0.62 Megajoules (Aren't on the level of Top and God Tiers)

Mid Tier: <0.62 Megajoules (Aren't on the level of High Tiers)

Low Tier: 0.31 Megajoules (Aren't on the level of Mid Tiers)

 

[Pikaman]

God Tier: >1.94 Megajoules (Stomp Mr. McMahon)

Top Tier: 1.94 Megajoules (Defeats Mr. McMahon with some effort)

High Tier: 0.62 Megajoules (Aren't on the level of Top and God Tiers)

Mid Tier: <0.62 Megajoules (Aren't on the level of High Tiers)

Low Tier: 0.31 Megajoules (Aren't on the level of Mid Tiers)

I was thinking more along the lines of


God Tier: >>1.94 Megajoules (Stomp Mr. McMahon)

Top Tier: >1.94 Megajoules - 1.94 Megajoules (Defeats Mr. McMahon with some effort)

High Tier: >>1.94 Megajoules - 0.62 Megajoules (Aren't on the level of Top and God Tiers)

Mid Tier: <0.62 Megajoules (Aren't on the level of High Tiers)

Low Tier: << 0.62 Megajoules - 0.31 Megajoules (Aren't on the level of Mid Tiers)

So putting Mr McMahon at the bottom of Top Tier, and then using 0.62 Megajoules as a supporting feat/bottom limit for the High Tiers

 

[Pikaman]

Also, would Demon Bálor get Fear Manip?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Also, would Demon Bálor get Fear Manip?

How so?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

High Tier: >>1.94 Megajoules - 0.62 Megajoules (Aren't on the level of Top and God Tiers)

You mean <1.94 Megajoules - 0.62 Megajoules?

Low Tier: << 0.62 Megajoules - 0.31 Megajoules (Aren't on the level of Mid Tiers)

Just put the Low Tiers at 0.31 Megajoules.