Prime Mechikabura vs Chara (End of Game)

[Xenomorphios]

The fight of the strongest dragon ball character currently vs Evil Child


EDIT: To make this more fair: Speed equalized





VS

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

I...don't think Mechikabura has the means to put down Chara?

 

[Schnee_One]

Not a stomp, but a fairly descisive win as Mech can't put Chara down.

 

[Read_this_post]

Hold on. Demigra > the player > asriel > chara. Is this a stomp? or a wierd rock paper scissors scenario? Regardless couldnt mechikabura just destroy the reality chara is in along with chara herself?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

You know that A > B > C logic doesn't work like that, right?

Also not at all.

 

[Read_this_post]

Depends on the circumstance really.

Why not?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Not here.

Because that's literally where Chara's 2-B feat comes from: Destroying the multiverse. And it did absolutely nothing to Chara herself.

 

[DMB_1]

Uhh...

Does Mech have the same powers as Demigra and Towa, or at least similiar to them?

 

[Schnee_One]

Why would destroying reality mean shit to a person who survived the destruction of reality

 

[Schnee_One]

Uhh...

Does Mech have the same powers as Demigra and Towa, or at least similiar to them?

Yes

 

[DMB_1]

Then can he mind-control her?

 

[Read_this_post]

i mean that destroying it should stop her from reloading. Plus he could destroy that and more considering his ap.

 

[Read_this_post]

hold on. is speed equalised?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Pretty sure that Chara is 4-D by now, and that DB mindcontrol never worked on 4-Ds.

 

[Schnee_One]

Chara doesn't need to save and load, it has Mid Godly regen

And no, so Chara blitzes, should be equal

 

[Read_this_post]

Thats only the players soul doing that. which mechikabura could destroy if he has a way of dealing with an incorpreal.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Chara has Type 8, plus Mid-Godly (which isn't actually reliant on the player's soul. Not sure why it says that) and Non-Corporeal. That's a lot of things that this guy has nothing to deal with, on top of his hax not working on 4-D people.

 

[DMB_1]

Didn't it work on Zamasu?

Also, when was it said that Chara is 4D? Flowy and Asriel don't seem to be that.

 

[Read_this_post]

fair enough. then chara likely hackstomps i╠Âg╠Ân╠Âo╠Âr╠Âi╠Ân╠Âg╠ ╠Ât╠Âh╠Âe╠ ╠Âf╠Âa╠Âc╠Ât╠ ╠Âh╠Âe╠ ╠Âi╠Âs╠ ╠Âh╠Âi╠Âg╠Âh╠ ╠Â1╠Â-╠ÂC╠ ╠Âb╠Âe╠Âc╠Âa╠Âu╠Âs╠Âe╠ ╠Âh╠Âe╠ ╠Âi╠Âs╠ ╠Âs╠Ât╠Âr╠Âo╠Ân╠Âg╠Âe╠Âr╠ ╠Ât╠Âh╠Âa╠Ân╠ ╠Âc╠Âo╠Âm╠Âp╠Âl╠Âe╠Âx╠ ╠Âm╠Âu╠Âl╠Ât╠Âi╠Âv╠Âe╠Âr╠Âs╠Âa╠Âl╠ ╠Âg╠Âu╠Âk╠Âu╠ ╠Âl╠Âo╠Âl╠Â

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Because Chara actually is the concept of stats and all that stuff IIRC. Despite the fact that she doesn't have Abstract Existence but that's because the profile is kinda bad and wasn't updated in forever.

 

[DMB_1]

Being reliant on a concept wouldn't really make you 4D though, unless she is the concept itself.

 

[Xenomorphios]

so is it actually a stomp or...?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

"Because Chara actually is the concept of stats"

Like I said the profile kinda suck and should be updated eventually, to decide if it's actually AE or just Immortality (or perhaps nothing at all)

 

[Schnee_One]

Wow the Alice fight is outdated too

I also forgot non corporal, stomp

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Like how it's 100% a stomp for Alice?

 

[Read_this_post]

I wonder if dragon ball heroes zeno could beat chara?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

If erasing the multiverse couldn't do anything to Chara then Zen'o can't do anything more.

 

[DMB_1]

Like how it's 100% a stomp for Alice?

She uses "Die for Me" and one-shots Chara. No joke.

Oh, and High-Godly makes it impossible for Chara to kill her.

 

[Schnee_One]

Like how it's 100% a stomp for Alice?

High Godly and Almighty?

Ye

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Little off-topic, but doesn't Alice's Death Manip NOT kill SMT characters completely? Like using Death Manip on someone with Type 8 but not killing them permanently doesn't make your death manip any stronger.

 

[Schnee_One]

High Godly keeps them alive

Mid Godly is a joke

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Yeah but did it ever counter Mid-Godly and/or Abstract Existence? Since it doesn't seem like it can actually SMT people permanently and simply "kill" them normally.

 

[Read_this_post]

hold on. If chara cannot be killed by the reality she is in being destroyed then is that high godly?

 

[DMB_1]

SMT Demons are abstracts.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Yeah but not Type 1 abstract. They just come back from death due to their concepts but they aren't walking concepts themselves. So affecting them isn't feat-worthy.

@Read Kinda but not really. It's attributed to her immortality instead of her regen.

 

[DMB_1]

Chara being a type 1 definitely needs more back up since she appeared for like, what? A minute of cutsecens or so?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Well her statement is either Type 1 Abstract or nothing at all imo. It can't just be immortality. We'll have to see though.

 

[DMB_1]

You need more proof than "I am violence" to be an abstract like that.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Well her statement is a bit more explicit than that. But we should probably take it over another thread since she needs to be revised anyway.

 

[DMB_1]

Very well then.