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God isnt baseline but the Presence, if we take into account his "upgraded" AP (Archangels, angels and the Spectre who completely transcends dimensions and possibly realms beyond dimensions being nothing but his imagination) then he'll probably defeat God
 
@sandman

wait, the presence got an upgrade in AP? when did that happen? so everything in DC is his imagination?
 
@misterman21

Yeah, but as the profile notes The Presence is inconsistent because of different writers and stories having different portrayals of him
 
Presence is not omscient and according to the respect thread and feats he should qualify for tier 0 but the only reason he doesn't qualify because he is a one hit wonder type of character.
 
ZacharyGrossman273 said:
Wait shouldn't the presence be high 1-A?
im not shure he is well above his 1-A creations but there is nothing that proves he transcends them over-monitor >>>>>glory of the first circle >>>>>>>> presence=GEB that would give DC 4 high 1-As perhaps even 5 if we count elaine and it would also give them around 7 1-As (whith most above baseline) that would make DC probably the strongest verse on this site
 
So. The Endless (Likely Death, Destiny and Dream)<Mohter Night=Father Time<Glory of the First Circle<Spectre<God (Seekers into the Mystery)<Lucifer=Michael<<The Presence<<<<Monitor-Mind The Overmind<<<<<<<The Writer?
 
BleedingPeach said:
So. The Endless (Likely Death, Destiny and Dream)<Mohter Night=Father Time<Glory of the First Circle<Spectre<God (Seekers into the Mystery)<Lucifer=Michael<<The Presence<<<<Monitor-Mind The Overmind<<<<<<<The Writer?
yes exactly
 
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