Pre-Crisis Superman question

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Why he scales to 2-C?

 

[KLOL506]

Why he scales to 2-C?

Uhhhhh.... did you check his AP section?

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Uhhhhh.... did you check his AP section?

Yes, i should have specified better:

"Attack Potency: Low Multiverse level (Comparable to other Pre-Crisis Kryptonians such as Supergirl and Superboy-Prime. Repeatedly manage to harm Maaldor the Darklord, who turned himself into an entire universe upon becoming mad and in a later story he defeat him in his abstract form. Pushed himself toward the center of the big bang and destroyed a structure that was withstanding it.[1] Comparable to the original Captain Marvel, who defeated the Invincible Man)"

All the feats are 3-A to Low 2-C

 

[KLOL506]

Yes, i should have specified better:

"Attack Potency: Low Multiverse level (Comparable to other Pre-Crisis Kryptonians such as Supergirl and Superboy-Prime. Repeatedly manage to harm Maaldor the Darklord, who turned himself into an entire universe upon becoming mad and in a later story he defeat him in his abstract form. Pushed himself toward the center of the big bang and destroyed a structure that was withstanding it.[1] Comparable to the original Captain Marvel, who defeated the Invincible Man)"

All the feats are 3-A to Low 2-C

He scales to Supergirl and Superboy-Prime, who scale to 2-C (52 universes)

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

He scales to Supergirl and Superboy-Prime, who scale to 2-C (52 universes)

Supergirl profile:

"Attack Potency: Low Multiverse level (Repeatedly stated and shown to be near equal to Superman. Manage to severely damage and eventually destroy Anti-Monitor's armor in their clash during COIE, force him to retreat to heal. Fought against Blackstarr, who controlled the universe in every aspect)"

Every single feat is 3-A to Low 2-C, except for the Anti-Monitor part

Anti-Monitor profile:

"Low Multiverse level (Equal to The Monitor. Darkseid would not escape him] after he's done with the infinite universes and could [http://imgur.com/Qqt2h2h destroy Apokolips. Defeated Earth-1 Superman[1])"

The Monitor profile:

"Attack Potency: Low Multiverse level (Stalemated the Anti-Monitor in a clash that rendered both unconscious. On his death, the Monitor created a Netherverse out of his very being, temporarily absorbing Earth 1 and 2 Universes[1]. While weakened, granted Harbinger's clone her powers, who merged Earth-X, Earth-4 and Earth-S into the Netherverse to save them from the Anti-Matter Wave[2]) "

This is only 3 space-time continuums and how would merge the continuums applies to Superman?

 

[KLOL506]

Did you check the Notes for Superboy Prime?

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Did you check the Notes for Superboy Prime?

Yes?

Superboy Prime´s profile:
"Low Multiverse level (Fought toe to toe with Ion (Sodam Yat)[4] and broke Hal Jordan's arm[5]. Affected the entire New Earth's universe with his "retcon punches", while in a weakened state[6]. Fought Monarch, an unrestricted version of Captain Atom, and breached his armor while running out of power. Said armor contained enough quantum energy to destroy the space-time continuum of the universe they were in[7][Note 1])"

Sodam Yat´s profile:
"Low Multiverse level (Fought toe to toe with Superboy-Prime)"

Hal Jordan´s profile:
Low Multiverse level (Comparable to Pre-Crisis Superman and Ultraman, The Time Trapper sent the energy from an unknown amount of power rings to the time-dimension to destroy all but one possible future[42])

Captain Atom´s profile:
"Low Multiverse level when unrestricted (Casually created his own universe in the Quantum Field with its own set of laws, reality, and time.[7] When their family dog was killed, he destroyed and recreated the universe so their dog could exist once again.[88] Destroyed the universe and recreated it just so he could be the first astronaut on the moon.[88] When his family was falling apart, he destroyed and recreated the universe so it wasn't the case.[88] Created his own version of DC heroes, including The Spectre.[88] And destroyed it as easily once he lost control to his other self.[84] Fought and overpowered his shadow-self who could also create and destroy reality with ease and was comparable to Nathaniel in every way.[84] When he went nuclear, he killed Jenny Quantum without meaning to.[70] Waverider believed Captain Atom was potentially the most powerful man alive.[45] Tackled Starro controlled Power Girl and Flash.[118] Fought Monarch (Hank Hall) who could overpower the likes of Superman, Guy Gardner, Martian Manhunter, Mon-El, Waverider, and more.[45][8] Supplied Metron's chair with enough power and energy to collapse an entire space-time continuum on its own.[117] When the Void sliver messed with his powers, he was going nuclear, the explosion which would have destroyed millions of universes.[119]As Monarch, he accidentally destroyed a space-time continuum in his battle with Superman-Prime.[44] In addition, he wanted to create a chain reaction that will reduce the multiverse into one unified universe.[98][Note 1]"

The "Who could also create and destroy reality" image just shows 3-A to Low 2-C power and Jenny Quantum´s profile says that she is just Low 2-C

The Spectre´s profile:
"Low Multiverse level (Superior to Nabu. Was able to battle Zero Hour Parallax, although he was temporarily defeated)

Nabu´s (Doctor Fate) profile:
"Low Multiverse level (Superior to Hector Hall.[5] Significantly superior to Eric and Linda Strauss. His power can be felt in other universes.[6] Alan Scott stated that Kent Nelson was arguably the most powerful sorcerer in the cosmos[7])"

Only 2 space-time continuums

Parallax profile:
"Low Multiverse level (Even at his base, could easily toy with and defeat Crispus Allen[12]. Should be more powerful than base Hal Jordan. While holding back, he easily overwhelmed a team of Kyle Rayner, Superman, Flash, Martian Manhunter, Aquaman, Hawkman and Green Arrow[13].[Note 3])"

And then you proceeds to check some outdated profiles if you don´t go Post-Crisis Superman´s profile:

"Low Multiverse level at peak (Defeated Darkseid in what he admitted was a fair fight,[135] while depowered, defeated Mongul,[136] someone on par with Darkseid,[137] thought he could beat The Weird even after he defeated the Justice League, proceeding to fight him on relative terms, with Weird stating he was more impressive than the League,[138] stated capable of defeating the Hank Hall version of Monarch,[139] trading blows with him later,[140] with Monarch being capable of twisting space and time, destroying Universes within atoms, and overpowered the Justice League. Suffered a mutual knockout alongside Death of Superman Doomsday,[141] feeling energy surging through him from reserves of power that he’d never tapped into before,[142] and could harm Titus,[143][144] even when Martian Manhunter couldn't[145][Note 2]"

Darkseid´s profile:
"Low Multiverse level (While significantly weakened, he defeated both Mordru[11] and Time Trapper (Controller)[11] and absorbed energy from all of the Sorcerer's World,[18] and was still weaker than normal. Highfather stated he was capable of destroying Takion[45] who also admitted Darkseid was more powerful than he was[34]. Has been show to be somewhat comparable to[46] Post-Crisis Superman, though he generally loses. Is as powerful as Infinite-Man[47], who's power could be used to destroy the Universe, including the timestream[48], and stalemated the Time Trapper[49], which is consistent with statements of the Time Trapper being comparable to Darkseid[50][51]. Significantly superior to average New Gods, who can create Universes[52][Note 1])"

Takion´s profile:
"Low Multiverse level (The Quantum Field, as well as the Speed Force and the Emotional Electromagnetic Spectrum, are merely parts of Takion's power)"

Profile that talk about speedforce:
"Low Multiverse level with the Entire Speed Force (Completely overwhelmed Cobalt Blue's absorption abilities.[27] Should be comparable to Barry Allen who assisted Pandora in merging the New Earth, Wildstorm, and Vertigo universes[28])"

Only 3 space-time continuums

Time Trapper´s profile scale him to Superman and Darkseid and the same thing happens in other profiles.....

 

[KLOL506]

@Emirp sumitpo Can you help out here?

 

[Excellence616]

DC Heralds rescaling thread

Forgive me that this has taken so long, but irl stuff has gotten in the way a lot, but that's all out of the way (for now), let's do it. Sandbox ratings Above is what the new ratings for the current characters should look like. You may notice that not everyone is listed, and the reasoning for...

vsbattles.com

 

[Excellence616]

DC Heralds rescaling thread

Forgive me that this has taken so long, but irl stuff has gotten in the way a lot, but that's all out of the way (for now), let's do it. Sandbox ratings Above is what the new ratings for the current characters should look like. You may notice that not everyone is listed, and the reasoning for...

vsbattles.com

The Thread that upgraded Superman.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Yeah, I mainly prefer it if the AP section simply listed feats that were actually 2-C; it is confusing if there are a whole paragraph full of 3-A to Low 2-C feats only to mention scaling from someone who is 2-C or one 2-C feat. The 3-A to Low 2-C stuff can simply be moved to a "Feats" section on the profile that is some really old suggestion that actually would work well if people used it more often.

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

It's scaling to Barbatos.

Attack Potency: Low Multiverse level (Was responsible for killing the World Forger in the Dark Multiverse[11] Although it is unknown how long it took him, as the Dragon of the Forge , Barbatos has destroyed billions of universes[12] His scream is the dark chord that shakes the strings of the multiverse,[13] which threatened to disrupt the vibrational frequencies of the 52 universes of the Orrery, twisting their laws of physics[14]), can ignore conventional durability by sending others into a never-ending nightmare

 

[Hypertornado099]

I pointed this out in the CRT and Emirp said that this is better than a giant scaling chain on the profiles. He suggested posting the blog with the feat on the verse page

Also Medeus is right, these profiles do a terrible job explaining anything