Potential 1-A upgrade for True Darkseid?

[StoneKillerz12]

True Darkseid is currently Low 1-C, which for the most part I agree with. However, his recent Death Metal showings might, just might put him up to 1-A (Outerverse level).

Please note I am not very experienced in VS Debating when it comes to the more powerful characters and have difficulty scaling their power as a whole. I would like some guidance before potentially moving this to content revision.

As shown in Death Metal, these feats might, might upgrade Darkseid to 1-A, however I am not sure about this. I would like people's opinions on these scans:

https://****************.ru/uploads/manga/dark-nights-death-metal-2020/chapters/4/23.jpg
Please share your thoughts/opinions about a potential Outerverse level upgrade for Darkseid. Once again, I could be wrong, but I need some confirmation at least.

 

[Thelastmlg]

I don't see how any of that is 1-A at all, the map stops right at the sphere of gods which is accepted as low 1-C, and the rest of the scans is a bunch of "reality in danger" stuff, too vague.

 

[San-Kakarot]

What is the comic name again? I confuse them.

 

[Yar_R_agi_7k]

actually, I see Sog as high hyperversel or even outversel, however, it is very difficult to prove this in this wiki, especially when there are a lot of DC haters staff... So I don't recommend you try it.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

actually, I see Sog as high hyperversel or even outversel, however, it is very difficult to prove this in this wiki, especially when there are a lot of DC haters staff... So I don't recommend you try it.

Seriously?


I don't know anything about DC, but non of this seems to justify 1-A

 

[Yar_R_agi_7k]

Seriously?


I don't know anything about DC, but non of this seems to justify 1-A

It can be 1-A with different methods, if I remember, maybe I can write the reason on the your profile tomorrow.

 

[StoneKillerz12]

Thank you for all of your input. Like I said I am not very educated in higher tier character scaling. I will probably ask a mod to close this after getting some more replies.

 

[Planck69]

1. None of this is 1-A.

2. There are already revisions for DC Comics in the works.

3. People (not the OP in specific) should really stop blaming a verse's tier on "staff hate", it's immature.

 

[Yar_R_agi_7k]

3. People (not the OP in specific) should really stop blaming a verse's tier on "staff hate", it's immature.

I have to ignore you saying this because already mods themselves accept it

 

[SonicMDC]

I don't see this as evidence for Darkseid's 1-A status.

 

[StoneKillerz12]

1. None of this is 1-A.

2. There are already revisions for DC Comics in the works.

3. People (not the OP in specific) should really stop blaming a verse's tier on "staff hate", it's immature.

That's why this is a "question and answers" board, not a revision request. I'm asking if this would make him 1-A.

I heard they are also downgrading the High 1-As to 1-A, is that correct?

 

[Planck69]

Yeah, that's pretty likely.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

From what I heard 1A characters themselves are getting downgraded

 

[Planck69]

That too is likely.

 

[Xearsay]

Most of this is just talking about Final Crisis when Darkseid fell over reality from the Godsphere. Which isn’t a new showing at all. So this doesn’t really support an upgrade in anyway.

Also the reason it’s very difficult to prove upgrades on here is because of the terrible way DC is forced to be scaled on this site.

 

[StoneKillerz12]

I have a feeling Lucifer and Michael might be lowered to High 1-B/Low 1-A (the same tier as Marvel cosmic beings)

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

I have a feeling Lucifer and Michael might be lowered to High 1-B/Low 1-A (the same tier as Marvel cosmic beings)

it will proabably lower than that dc having infinite dimensions was debunked

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

From what I've heard, all 1-As to High 1-As and 0s will be High 1-B to 1-A

 

[Hasty12345]

From what I've heard, all 1-As to High 1-As and 0s will be High 1-B to 1-A

This is gonna make a lot of people upset

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

I doubt they will become High 1B. Dc does not have infinite dimensions

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Was that actually accepted?

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Was that actually accepted?

yes

 

[Planck69]

I feel like this has veered off topic a bit. Does the OP have anything to add or should I close this?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I dunno

 

[StoneKillerz12]

why

Probably cause the profiles are exaggerated. I think Outerversal+ seems more fitting, but The Writer shouldn't be Tier 0 tbh.

 

[Amakasu]

I have a feeling Lucifer and Michael might be lowered to High 1-B/Low 1-A (the same tier as Marvel cosmic beings)

No. They are explicitly been outerversal in this wiki for multiple reasons. Infinte Dimensions are none of that.

 

[Planck69]

No. They are explicitly been outerversal in this wiki for multiple reasons. Infinte Dimensions are none of that.

They're likely getting downgraded actually. A lot of the reasons don't hold up.

 

[Amakasu]

They're likely getting downgraded actually. A lot of the reasons don't hold up.

Like what? It's very clearly stated multiple times he scales above creation and has gone to places that are 1A, and have created his creation equal to the main dc one. If you are saying the source wall, monitor sphere and such will no longer be 1A then there's the overvoid thing too

 

[Planck69]

Like what? It's very clearly stated multiple times he scales above creation and has gone to places that are 1A, and have created his creation equal to the main dc one. If you are saying the source wall, monitor sphere and such will no longer be 1A then there's the overvoid thing too

The fact that these 1-A realms may no longer meet the actual requirements for 1-A. Overvoid himself is also due a revision and it's likely a downgrade.

Anyway, I'm not at liberty to go over the specifics but this is the general state of things.

 

[Amakasu]

The fact that these 1-A realms may no longer meet the actual requirements for 1-A. Overvoid himself is also due a revision and it's likely a downgrade.

I mean maybe the multivese and such will be downgraded but not the Source wall and such because they have blatent statements of them being 1A. Like the last time someone tried to downgrade that it was rejected, so not seing why that matters. Plus there are more multiple things of him scaling to the endless and such Which does make him 1A.

Anyway, I'm not at liberty to go over the specifics but this is the general state of things.

Ok?

 

[Winzy]

True Darkseid is currently Low 1-C, which for the most part I agree with. However, his recent Death Metal showings might, just might put him up to 1-A (Outerverse level).

Please note I am not very experienced in VS Debating when it comes to the more powerful characters and have difficulty scaling their power as a whole. I would like some guidance before potentially moving this to content revision.

As shown in Death Metal, these feats might, might upgrade Darkseid to 1-A, however I am not sure about this. I would like people's opinions on these scans:

Please share your thoughts/opinions about a potential Outerverse level upgrade for Darkseid. Once again, I could be wrong, but I need some confirmation at least.

Darkseid is a New God and New Gods are platonic archetypes, 1-A.

 

[Guardian_Doge]

Darkseid is a New God and New Gods are platonic archetypes, 1-A.

That's a huuuge necro. But regardless being platonic isn't 1-A.

 

[Confluctor]

Closing. Its a necro and darkseid will never be 1-A, not on my watch