Post-Crisis Superman vs Buu Saga Goku.

[ShutUp123]

superman's speed calculation is very complex i really don't get it.The only thing i can get is radiation is at light speed can move 0.01m but superman has moved 2.6m in the same time so superman is 262c?My mind is blown away

 

[KazarianFahs]

superman's speed calculation is very complex i really don't get it.The only thing i can get is radiation is at light speed can move 0.01m but superman has moved 2.6m in the same time so superman is 262c?My mind is blown away

Post C supes also has vega feat that puts him in quadrillions of miles per hour travel speed,supes speed calcs are all over the place,can be anything from few hundred to few thousand times the speed of light.

 

[ShutUp123]

That was superman's combat speed calculation

 

[Metabro]

Combat speed fallacy, solar system statements, and ki being super effective against Superman? Is this 2008 again?

Again, the planet collision feat put Supes' durability at multi-solar system level (at least in the hundreds IIRC). Exactly what amount of energy did Buu Saga Goku produce or is scaled to that comes close to this level? And no, I don't think an untested, one-time mentioned "weakness" is enough to base a viable argument over

 

[Maria_Lucero]

A weakness is a weakness. You can't say it's a half.

Sorry to dissapoint you, TJ "Metabro" Yoshi, but that's u reasonable.

 

[Metabro]

...TJ "Metabro" Yoshi? Not sure I get the joke

Anyway, no it's not a really viable weakness. To my knowledge it was never even actually used against Supes, nor has it ever been brought up again by Lex or any other character to my recollection. It was a theory at best, so we should treat it as such

 

[Maria_Lucero]

You can't erase a STATED weakness.

 

[ShutUp123]

I have agreed that goku would lose due to speed disadvantage although both characters does have moves to put each other away so goku from buu timeline loses but later timeline would be spite against superman.

 

[Derpmaster9000]

Metabro the reason why cell is accepted as solar system level here is due to first form friezas feat of destroying planet vegeta which was calced at small star level+

 

[Maria_Lucero]

Goku in the Buu Saga is way stronger than SSJ2 Gohan, whih was Solar System level.

And Goku also takes this, even with the speed dissadvantage.

 

[Antoniofer]

The problem in DBZ is that characters like Goku aren't physically strong at all, in a melee fight, Supa has the advantage, Goku only overpower him with energy projection/ki blast and he need to make those kind of attacks from afar in order to not get caught by the explotion; with speed unequalized that only turn the fight more difficult for Goku

 

[Ryukama]

The problem in DBZ is that characters like Goku aren't physically strong at all, in a melee fight, Supa has the advantage, Goku only overpower him with energy projection/ki blast and he need to make those kind of attacks from afar in order to not get caught by the explotion; with speed unequalized that only turn the fight more difficult for Goku

Maybe Goku can't lift as much as Superman, but what does that matter when Goku can hit FAR harder? Superman has no physical advantage here, but he wins with speed and phasing.

 

[Jucaslucas]

Can Goku protect himself from being lobotomized by heat vision?

 

[Metabro]

You can't erase a STATED weakness.

You can ignore a baseless theory. Never worked, never mentioned again. Not to be taken seriously. We don't accept assumptions as fact

Metabro the reason why cell is accepted as solar system level here is due to first form friezas feat of destroying planet vegeta which was calced at small star level+

I understand that, and every power level placement after that relies on either character statements or Super Saiyan multipliers. For example, it's obvious Final Form Frieza and SS1 Goku are stronger than that small star feat, but being stronger doesn't mean you instantly jump a tier in power. Being 50 times stronger than baseline city block level doesn't make you town level, just a higher degree of city block level. We don't know for sure how much stronger than that feat Frieza became, nor do we know for sure how much stronger Cell or Buu are than Frieza without relying on arbitrary Super Saiyan multipliers

Even if we assume Cell is indeed baseline solar system level, we still don't know the degree Buu of which Buu is stronger. We know Superman's durability is over 1000 Foe, which puts is enough energy to destroy a solar system over 170 to over 1000 times over, depending on your definition of solar system level. Superman is calced high in the multi-solar system level, meanwhile Buu's level is left up to assumptions

This is inoring Superman's other durability feats too, such as his cells being able to absorb the anti-sunlight warhead meant to vaporize half a galaxy, tanking the Source Wall exploding on him, tanking blows from the Void Hound (which destroyed ten solar systems on it's test run), tanking hits from Prime, tanking a matter manipulation cosmic storm, tanking Shazam's lightning, tanking a blast from Mordru, tanking a hit from Emperor Joker, etc.

 

[Derpmaster9000]

Metabro you are seriously complaining about statements in dbz and then you show me some of supes outlier durability feats such as surviving the source wall explosion? Bro just look at pc supes profile on this site and if you are dissatisfied with his stats then ask the admins for an upgrade and if they accept then both rounds of this match will be a stomp period.

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

as far as the anti light thing goes iirc he only ate the fuel of the bomb


thats like u eating the triggering parts of a nuke

and saying u got 7-B dura

 

[Promestein]

This thread was a bad idea.