Possible Yuyuyu Additions

[Kaltias]

Your average nuke is 7-C

 

[ZeroTwo64]

In Yuki Yuna is a Hero we consider the strongest nukes, because even Low-Ranked Vertexes (Which are always one-shotted by heroes) can survive them without a scratch.

 

[Kaltias]

That's a complete non-sequitur.

The strongest nuke ever made is 50 megatons, and shrugging off that is 7-B/7-A.

This doesn't mean that "thousands of nukes" means thousands of times the Tsar Bomb

 

[ZeroTwo64]

If we had considered thousands of Tsar Bombs, they would have reached the Tier 6-C, but they didn't. Those nukes can have different yield.

 

[Schnee_One]

That's assuming their power is combined

It isn't

It's the same reason Composite Human with nukes was downgraded

 

[ZeroTwo64]

Anyways, I agree with "At least 7-A" heroes instead of "High 7-A"

 

[Kaltias]

@Zero

Ok? Prove that these nukes are above your average tactical nuke, which is 7-C

 

[Schnee_One]

I thought they were 7B?

 

[ZeroTwo64]

Ok, so 7-A is better! If Golden Scorpions and Gojira1234 agree, we can proceed with the edit!

 

[Schnee_One]

Why 7A tho

 

[ZeroTwo64]

7-B sorry, not 7-A

 

[Kaltias]

@Gar

Hydrogen bombs are.

Your average nuclear bomb is 300 kilotons (which now that I think about it, is High 7-C)

 

[ZeroTwo64]

@Zero

Ok? Prove that these nukes are above your average tactical nuke, which is 7-C

Look at Stardust (Yuki Yuna) profile

 

[Kaltias]

It can shrug off the strongest nukes.

I have already explained why this doesn't relate to the statement

 

[ZeroTwo64]

Yes, but Stardusts can be easily defeated by heroes, so 7-A is reasonable!

 

[Kaltias]

7-A is fine by me.

 

[ZeroTwo64]

I also agree with 7-A! May I proceed with the edit?

 

[Kaltias]

No, wait for the others

 

[RKGenki]

Look at Stardust (Yuki Yuna) profile

>Sees Immunity

Ughh

 

[ZeroTwo64]

Ok, sorry

 

[ZeroTwo64]

Look at Stardust (Yuki Yuna) profile

>Sees Immunity

Ughh

I think it's better to add Resistance instead of Immunity.

And Superhuman Physical Characteristics too.

And change its name from Taurus Vertex to Stardust.

 

[RKGenki]

Yeah, resistance is way better.

I mean, not even characters who resist 1-A haxes have immunities.

 

[ZeroTwo64]

I'm changing all the Vertexes profiles

 

[GoldenScorpions]

wait

 

[GoldenScorpions]

I just saw this. ZeroTwo, stop making decisions by yourself

 

[ZeroTwo64]

Sorry, you can edit them if you want

 

[GoldenScorpions]

I'll explain the thought-process of the profiles, tiers, etc. so please wait

 

[ZeroTwo64]

Fine, thank you very much!

 

[Kaltias]

Genki is right about the resistance thing.

Immunity is given only when you can't be affected period (Like soul hax on a soulless being)

 

[GoldenScorpions]

So I could only briefly check what was going on, since I'm still at work...

Stardusts, which could be seen as "the cells of Vertexes", can shrug off the strongest modern nukes, and Heroes casually kill them. Vertexes, being the "natural evolution" of Stardusts when they merge, are much stronger. YuYuYu-Heroes are able to one-shot them with a well-placed attack (minus a few exceptions). So the idea was that Stardusts were 7-B and Vertexes were 7-A. In WaSuYu, the Capricorn Vertex was overpowering Gin Minowa, the strongest Hero of her team, while in YuYuYu, Karin Miyoshi casually solo'ed the same Vertex.

Year-0 Heroes (NoWaYu; no profiles yet) can only harm Vertexes. Year-298 Heroes (WaSuYu) can defeat Vertexes but with trouble and with teamwork. Year-300 Heroes (YuYuYu) are able to solo and even one-shot Vertexes with no trouble. I think that was the basis of the High 7-A tier. If it's overestimated, that's fine, it can be lowered. I believe we also used what the strongest modern nukes would be like, as the most recent nuke demonstration we have is Tsar Bomba, which was in 1961, aka quite old, and the novel states countries were bombarding Vertexes with the strongest modern nukes, which also influenced our higher tier attribution.

 

[GoldenScorpions]

For the Immunity thing, I used that because Vertexes aren't as much "creatures" as they are "constructs", created by the Heavenly Gods, which, imo, makes them immune to several haxes humans are affected by, instead of just Resisted. They have no brains, no personality, no thought processes, etc. almost like machines.

 

[Kaltias]

The strongest modern nukes are actually below the Tsar Bomba, as no one wants to make nukes of a similar yield.

Regardless, that seems more like a mid end 7-A than a High 7-A.

Being a machine doesn't give you immunity to time stop or status effects.

 

[GoldenScorpions]

I'll make the edits when I get home. ZeroTwo, let me handle them.

Let's also wait for Gojira and Gun to see what they think

 

[ZeroTwo64]

Ok

 

[Gojira1234]

Lowering them to 7-A seems reasonable enough, given what evidence has been given.

 

[GoldenScorpions]

@Kaltias Since you're saying mid-end 7-A, do we use 7-A+ then?

 

[Kaltias]

I think that something like "At least 7-A" works better in this scenario

 

[GoldenScorpions]

got it

 

[Gojira1234]

So in light of the revisions, where does this put the NoWaYu Heroes in base? 7-B?

 

[GoldenScorpions]

Can they beat Stardusts? (I assume they do) If so, then yes, 7-B at base sounds solid