Possible Naruto Hax Additions

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Yeah, it was. That actually makes sense, I think.

Don't understand what you mean or what you're getting at here.


By the way can I add resistance to Mind Manipulation or Telepathy (not sure what Ino's ability counts as) to Sakura's page since she resisted Ino's technique because of her alter ego and for Obito since he forced Ino out of his mind with sheer willpower?

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Was the orb inserted into Hinata? Then for it to work, it has to be inside? Then Naruto has no resistance to it unless we see him having it inside him.
Was it directed to Hinata's face? Then its range is pathetically tiny that Toneri has to wave it at someone's face for it to take effect.

I dont think that is ever stated, just assumed. Tho since the orb itself is pure chakra, wouldnt it be the chakra itself that puts her under his control? If so then all Naruto would have to do is be resistant to his chakra. And since Naruto not only survived the orb going straight inside of him when absorbing his chakra, along with also being stronger than Toneri, this should justify it.

Also to be fair on this point Toneri did that to her in base and well, with ease. When actually serious his range could be far greater.

 

[AppleLord]

Considering the technique doesn't have a name, we will have to assume the orb haves multi-task abilities and that it works on everyone, but the orb not affecting Naruto can also be considered an anti-feat as we really don't know one way or the other.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Why would it be an anti-feat? Couldnt it be that Naruto is just resistant to the orbs hax? After all one of those orbs was shot right into him at point-blank range when it absorbed his chakra and he received no adverse effects from it besides his chakra being absorbed. If he really could have been controlled than Toneri would have taken the oppoturnity he got at that moment to control Naruto, making things much easier and simplier for him.

 

[AppleLord]

You kind off repeated the opposite of what I said. Why wouldn't it be the other way around then? We really don't know one way or the other if it can multi-task or its name to be certain.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

I would still like to know how its an Anti-Feat first tbh.

 

[AppleLord]

I kind off explain that already, before you repeated the feat again. So I ask why not the opposite? You never answered.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Different abilities do different things, despite similar looks.

The orbs

> simple explosive type

> conversion into Gudodama and vice-versa

> conversion into solid matter (the cage)

> energy absorption

> body/chakra weakening (Hinata's weakening hold on a scarf while hanging off the side of a building)

> mind control

Naruto was not hit with the same unnamed technique, until proof is shown otherwise.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Erm so...

Naruto: Selective Intangibility.

Toneri: Telepathy, Energy Absorption, Mind Manipulation and Spiritual Projection.

Hamura: Limited Intangibility, Telekinesis, can control attractive and repulsive forces, Telepathy, Mind Manipulation, Spiritual Projection, Limited Matter Manipulation and Energy Absorption. Basically everything Toneri has.

Also again, can I add Resistance to Telepathy or Mind Manipulation to Sakura and Obito's page based on them resisting Ino's ability?

 

[AppleLord]

Hamura should be noted to have this abilities by Tenseigan.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Okay but did you consider my earlier comment as a possibility before or no?

Also Toneri should get Selective Intangibility too since he can make his body into pure chakra like Naruto and can physically enter the chakra orbs into people, such as Hinata.

Also, wouldnt Toneri get Limited Power Nullification? His chakra orb basically Nullified Naruto's Rasengan when it made contact with it.

 

[Gemmysaur]

@ProfessorKukui4Life

I considered it and I find myself disagreeing.

>pure chakra doesn't mean his entire chakra has the same properties

>chakra-based mindfck can be resisted with chakra too, hell, there's a technique to counter genjutsu, the posterboy of chakra-based mindfck, they call 'kai', if only for the low-tier ones

>the orb shooting through Rasengan doesn't mean much in relation to the other orb that mindfcks, it's specifically meant to absorb chakra, which Rasengan is made of

>the absorption orb is not power nullification since it is power absorption already

I agree with Toneri having selective intangibility as well if he put his hand in someone's body too. If not, and he only let the orb enter the body, then no. Chakra has no solid state so it stands reasonable that unmolded chakra can enter another person's body. There's even a technique for that called Chakra Transfer technique, which Naruto demonstrated in the war by passing Kurama buffs to thousands of people and Minato passing 50% Kurama to Naruto (though he failed).

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Yeah, I think he put his hand through Hinata but I didn't bother to re-watch that scene again since I was just looking for what Naruto did to Hinata.

Ah, also I forgot to add this to the original post but should Naruto get Minor Resistance to Soul Manipulation because he was able to hold his soul for some time when Nagato tried to pull it out? I'm suggesting Minor Resistance because I don't know if Nagato would have succeeded eventually because of Itachi's interference.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Possibly. I'm with you on Naruto having minor resistance to soulfck.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Okay. So is that all or does anyone have any other thing to bring up?


Hmm, should Kurama have Selective Intangibility too?

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Wait what was the reason for them not being able to bypass durability again? If unmolded chakra can "pass through people" then wouldnt that count in their attacks too? Forgive me if im being persistant about it as I just would like these questions to be answered.

Also, I rewatched the scene as I have the movie downloaded to my computer and yes Toneri puts his hand into Hinata to place another chakra orb into her, putting her under his control. Plus when he attacked Naruto with one of the orbs earlier, his arm glew completely green like his chakra similar to when Naruto did the same thing to remove the orb from Hinata. So Toneri should get Selective Intangilbity.

Also, I found 2 things interesting while rewatching some scenes.

The first, Hinata was able to see and even communicate with the souls of the redeceased Otsutsuki Clan members and even Hamura when they told her to stop Toneri. We see this happen when Naruto and the others enter the deceased chamber in one of the temples. Plus despite them being dead they all still are aware of Toneri's plans to destroy the earth. So what would this be? If you need a link, you can ask me if you want.

And the other is, after Toneri put an orb inside Hinata, we see Hinata inside....well.....a painting. Does that imply he took her soul and placed it there or something? I honestly have no idea.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

I think Gemmysaur said Selective Intangibility was interchangeable with the Durability Negation or something like that.


Like are you suggesting something for Hinata? Isn't it like how Naruto and Sasuke communicated with Hagoromo? Besides, isn't something like this common in Bleach? I don't see anything relating to this on their pages so it might just mean Naruto characters can communicate with people like Shinigami or something.

I don't remember this part. Where did he do it?

 

[AppleLord]

Huh? Naruto characters have been able to see spirits since they summon the Shinigami. We even see the shinobi forces watch the souls of the Edo people as they leave their bodies and pass on. Naruto when he grab his own soul with his chakra arms. Sasuke seen Itachi's soul as he pass on, Etc..

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Well then I guess it means Hinata can telepathically communicatte with spirits.

Also would this imply Type 1 Immortality for Hamura? Despite being dead he is aware of Toneri's plans to destroy the world, implying his spirit was still living on the Moon to obtain that knowledge.

 

[Gemmysaur]

I think the soul thing is less Hinata's and more Hamura's people. They contacted her in the first place, only when she was in their... I think it was a temple.

Minato did the same thing using his fuinjutsu, he put a sliver of his and Kushina's chakra inside Naruto so he can meet them and help him with Kurama.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Fair point there. But as apple pointed out, many shinobi in the verse do have spirtual awareness since they could see the spirits of the edos leave when they left their reanimated bodies. And now that I think about it, Hinata shouldnt really be any different, no?

 

[Gemmysaur]

Yes, I suppose. These spiritual beings seem to be masses of chakra if anything.

 

[Antvasima]

@Gemmysaur What, if any, new abilities do you think should be added to the character profiles?

 

[Gemmysaur]

I dunno if there are any discussed here added yet, but:

Toneri

energy absorption

mind control/manipulation

telepathy (speaking through puppets iirc)

limited transmutation (turning green orbs into TSB into a solid cage)


Naruto

resistance to soul manipulation


Naruto and Toneri

selective/limited intangibility


I'm unsure of others/if there are others.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. You can add the abilities to the profiles if you wish. I could temporarily unlock them for you.

 

[Gemmysaur]

I'm gonna have to call negative on that. I'm rather busy at the moment to check on and edit the profiles in question at the moment. Sorry.

Maybe in about 10 hours, I'm free.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. You can tell me here when you have the time.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Dont worry about Transmutation he already has that listed on his page.

Telepathy is through his chakra/green orbs which among the multiple abilities it grants him, he is able to read minds. Matter of fact wouldnt this also give him Precog?

He'd also get Spiritual Progession as he is able to easily cast living and active holograms of himself.

And I believe thats it.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Hamura would get Toneri's abilities too. His page is devoid of abilities apart from the standard Byakugan stuff and Elemental Manipulation.

Yes, Mind Reading should give Toneri Precognition.

Naruto: Selective Intangibility, Resistance to Soul Manipulation.

Toneri: Telepathy, Energy Absorption, Mind Manipulation and Spiritual Projection, Precognition (if accepted).

Hamura: Limited Intangibility, Telekinesis, can control attractive and repulsive forces, Telepathy, Mind Manipulation, Spiritual Projection, Limited Matter Manipulation, Energy Absorption, Precognition (if accepted).

Sakura/Obito: Resistance to Telepathy/Mind Manipulation (I assume it's fine since no one said anything about it.

I think that's all. Someone remind me if I'm missing something.

 

[AppleLord]

Spiritual Awareness for all of them.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

I mean, every shinobi would have that so I'm not sure it's really necessary.

 

[AppleLord]

I don't see it in their profiles.

 

[Antvasima]

@Gemmysaur Do you have the time now?

 

[Gemmysaur]

I suppose I do. I'll do it now if you'll unlock Toneri and Naruto. Hamura too, but the rest, I think has to be talked about more.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Edited Naruto, Toneri and Hamura. They can be locked now.

The others, I wish to have more opinions on.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

@AppleLord

I mean, it would be too much work to add it to every Naruto profile on the site.

@Gemmysaur

Do you mean the one for Obito and Sakura?

 

[AppleLord]

It can be noted in the verse page as a general ability.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Okay. Is the verse page locked?

Also, what do you think of what I suggested for Sakura and Obito?

 

[AppleLord]

I'm ok with it. Unless is contradicted somehow?