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Possible Asura's wrath upgrade
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This video has already been brought up and rejected
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It was never rejected, the last time it was brought up i was told to make a CRT, and i decided not to.
Still, a friend of mine debunked the video in another wiki. All of the points in the video hinge on the word "world" meaning "universe". However, this is false. Immediately after saying that Asura was the one to inherit the world, Chakravartin claims that Gaea must be led by one of its own, so he was definitely talking about Gaea there.
Still, a friend of mine debunked the video in another wiki. All of the points in the video hinge on the word "world" meaning "universe". However, this is false. Immediately after saying that Asura was the one to inherit the world, Chakravartin claims that Gaea must be led by one of its own, so he was definitely talking about Gaea there.
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But why is Chakravartin only 4-A he was clearly holding galaxies.
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They arent galaxy sized galaxies, theyre visual effects
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Funny because Chakravartin's size is inconsistant, it COULD be possible that he was able to maniputate the size and isn't he THE CREATOR. Also if he was holding stars why whould they be the shape of galaxies (well maybe because they were actually meant to be galaxies).
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Authorial intent isn't relevant in a debate. The writers probably meant for these to be real galaxies, but what they actually put into the game (aka provably small galaxies) overrides their intentions.
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After reading the thread I agree with the galaxies actually being stars, but how is the pocket dimention Chakravartin created an unquantifiable hyperbole?
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Naraka is another that has an endless amount of endless pillers. This should be a high 3-A feat but for some reason it's considered a "hyperbole".Yobobojojo said:
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The pillars are not endless, unless you think Asura has infinite speed.
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He fell down to Naraka and climbed them in twelve thousand years, which would make him infinitely fast if the pillars were endless.
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How fast is base Asura? We know it took 12k years to climb a pillar. We multiply that many years in seconds by Asura's speed, and we know how big the realm is.
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That is arguable, because you can easily say that Goku is massively ftl+ in the saiyan saga because snake way runs across other world which is universe sized.
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It really isnt
Why not? Sounds simple enough fpr AW.
Why not? Sounds simple enough fpr AW.
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I was just giving an example, so let's not get off topic.
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So how fast is bsse Asura exactly? Thats the problem. Can I get a rough estimate at least? I've heard about sub rel, but thats it.Yobobojojo said:
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The point is that Asura could not have climbed it, needing rage and determination to do so, which he didn't have without his memory. This means his soul either appeared on the pillar or was brought there by Chakravartin, which negates the idea Naraka can't be infinite because of it.Lightbuster30 said:
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So how fast is bsse Asura exactly? Thats the problem. Can I get a rough estimate at least? I've heard about sub rel, but thats it.
The point is that Asura could not have climbed it, needing rage and determination to do so, which he didn't have without his memory. This means his soul either appeared on the pillar or was brought there by Chakravartin, which negates the idea Naraka can't be infinite because of it.
I never said it was infinite. And he most certainly climbed it/ran up it, we literally see him do this. If you want to argue otherwise, then you need a feasible alternative to what we saw on screen.
The point is that Asura could not have climbed it, needing rage and determination to do so, which he didn't have without his memory. This means his soul either appeared on the pillar or was brought there by Chakravartin, which negates the idea Naraka can't be infinite because of it.
I never said it was infinite. And he most certainly climbed it/ran up it, we literally see him do this. If you want to argue otherwise, then you need a feasible alternative to what we saw on screen.
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The point is that Asura could not have climbed it, needing rage and determination to do so, which he didn't have without his memory. This means his soul either appeared on the pillar or was brought there by Chakravartin, which negates the idea Naraka can't be infinite because of it. I never said it was infinite. And he most certainly climbed it/ran up it, we literally see him do this. If you want to argue otherwise, then you need a feasible alternative to what we saw on screen.Lightbuster30 said:
I thought I pointed this out. The pillar can be infinite in one direction, but not in the other. Yes he ran up it, but not from the infinite bottom
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So how fast is bsse Asura exactly? Thats the problem. Can I get a rough estimate at least? I've heard about sub rel, but thats it.The point is that Asura could not have climbed it, needing rage and determination to do so, which he didn't have without his memory. This means his soul either appeared on the pillar or was brought there by Chakravartin, which negates the idea Naraka can't be infinite because of it. I never said it was infinite. And he most certainly climbed it/ran up it, we literally see him do this. If you want to argue otherwise, then you need a feasible alternative to what we saw on screen.
I thought I pointed this out. The pillar can be infinite in one direction, but not in the other. Yes he ran up it, but not from the infinite bottom
I am not arguing infinite pillars! I literally just said that. My point is: From where Asura was hanging, it took 12000 years of sprinting to reach the top. We can use this to find the size of the dimension.
I thought I pointed this out. The pillar can be infinite in one direction, but not in the other. Yes he ran up it, but not from the infinite bottom
I am not arguing infinite pillars! I literally just said that. My point is: From where Asura was hanging, it took 12000 years of sprinting to reach the top. We can use this to find the size of the dimension.
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What about the number of pillers, which is also said to be endless? And there could have been a portal at the top of a piller (though that sounds pretty rediculous). Or the piler is actually endless and the more Asura climbed the more his soul wanted to return to his body. And if Naraka isn't infinite then why would Asura come from under ground, which would mean that Naraka is inside Gaia, but that's not true because that's where Vlitra lives.
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No sir, I am arguing POSSIBLE infinite pillars, since we see him run up from the middle of a pillar
So does anyone know Asura's base speed?
So does anyone know Asura's base speed?
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Forget it, I'll just use baseline mhs+ since that is his slowest speed (Don't have exact numbers, just know he is above baseline according to his profile). 343000 m/s x 3.78432e+11 seconds is 1.2980218e+17 meters or 13.72 Light Years. More than triple baseline 4-A by size.
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Now we just have to figure out if Naraka is infinite, thanks!
Hmm wasn't Asura supposed to Dwarf the Karma fortress, which is almost half the size of the Sun? Apparently things were made smaller because the game engine couldn't handle it (or so I've heard)
Hmm wasn't Asura supposed to Dwarf the Karma fortress, which is almost half the size of the Sun? Apparently things were made smaller because the game engine couldn't handle it (or so I've heard)
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Are we gonna continue?
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