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Pokémon: Pinsir Intercepts Solar Beam
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Literally accepted and all. Idk why we don't use it.
'major rule violation' is a complete exaggeration lmfao.
Changing the stats of a profile without a content revision thread is pretty major.
Could you please tell Jinx whether what he did is a rule violation or not? He won't listen to us so....
Except
Changing the value of the stats of still changing The stats, even if the exact value is not listed.
Literal antithesis. People need to get out of the mentality that CRTs arent unnecessarily long in themself so they might as well be for something relevant, especially for this verse when it comes to something so minor as changing the justification (and not the actual stat).
Have we came to a consensus on what fixing the verse would entail?
this was already attempted and failed and was debunked. You can try a repeat of that and send the verse into another 2 year frozen state if you'd like.
I mean we kinda need to have an agreement before we try to fix stuff otherwise we are going to mess with each other by trying to "fix" stuff in different ways.
such as
I guess this is reasonable.
Isn't a lot of the background world building that is the actual basis for much of the scaling the same like mountain smashing?
Very conceited of you tbh but like, i can see why it 'failed'. Something like this is genuinely not debunked, and Ash vs Yugi, G1 Blogs and other notable sources have criticised and went against this standing that you think we can composite EVERY Pokemon medium. Even this wiki's modern standard of separating pages for alternate versions of characters is clear proof of this.
The Rhyhorn mountain smashing came from PLA where it was from a contextually beginner-Pokedex entry. Every other modern incarnation then says Rhyhorn only messes around with skyscrapers, meanwhile more impressive Pokemon like Tyranitar are the ones that affect those Mountains. There should be a lot of scrutiny applied, as well as the consideration that Type effectiveness and interactions are ever present in a Pokemon's 'durability'.
There was a CRT where a big blog was released that debunked the original canon split and put a nail in that coffin
...who cares??? Taking Death Battle as an actual source is like treating Reality TV as actual unscripted events. G1 blogs are simply a group of specific scalelers with their own biases and issues, not to mention some dubious calcs if I remember correctly. The sources you've mentioned are no more important than any VSBW opinion.
And? Across the entirety of powerscalers that don't scale pokemon more like.
They are complementary and that has been established several times to the point where Ash literally exists and had most of his adventures within the game canon (Ash-Greninja, Pikachu with all the hats and 10m volt thunderbolt, Ash getting added to PMEX, Gengar gift from Ash in Galar, Alain getting mentioned by Steven and that's just to name a few).
Question: Do you know which thread it was? I looked for it in the past, but I couldn't find it.
I can't be bothered to look at it for now but search for the canon split debunk blog in the search bar, you'll find it at some point. Don't exactly remember who made it but it might've been Bobsican.
Im aware. I dont know what was said or what arguments were made but there is 0 way that the idea of separating the games and anime is 'debunked'. Like, what so ever. Its very common logic from even stuff as simple as errrr, Swellow's thunder armor, that the Games work differently, and the fact the story actually follows Ash in the anime in place of any protagonists.
A lot of people care? We shouldnt be shutting down any other ways of doing things, especially when its far more popular and concise to be following those. Otherwise we're stuck in the past.
People who scale Pokemon outside of the wiki do exist. Professional researchers and global opinions do matter.
Those do NOT prove Ash exists in the game-canon whatsoever. Making slight references and giving out meta-level rewards in-game through wifi etc.
Sister, I got banned for adding "common sense additions" to GoW Poseidon like Electricity Manip and Resistance without a prior CRT and then some, you are deadass changing a speed rating and are defending it.
Pause
If we chased after everyone's tail we would be dead as a wiki by now, it is our personal takes that keep this place properly afloat. This isn't industry, this is subjective opinions, and using DB as a source is something you'd need to lobotomize me to get me to accept.
'Professional' 'global' are you hearing yourself right now? Seriously. These are like 5 dudes here, maybe 7 dudes over here, half of them in a basement eating tendies and getting grease over the keyboard. Stop treating this shit as politics when it's quite literally a pointless game-like hobby. The reason why we enjoy what we enjoy is precisely because we don't care about following some status quo.
Yeah no this is a bias at this point. I ain't even gonna entertain it. These were fully added and fully playable, these aren't just references, this is quite literally in the game. You can whine about it all you want but I ain't gonna hear out what's clearly "uhhh this doesn't count because uhhh I said so!"
This isn't what's being argued, what is argued is that these events are taking place in a shared multiverse where generally things would be the same until a clear contradiction came. In-game stories across the multiverse are heavily different from each other as well, just take all the alternate realities in USUM. If Ash exists in the game world then nothing stops from there being a parallel timeline where he was the one taking the reins, especially considering we quite literally do see some of the protagonists in the anime itself.
I mean the mountain thing was just because they couldn't say skyscraper so I don't fully disagree with that, please clarify if impressive Pokemon is just fully evolved Pokemon or power house Pokemon.
I would argue Brock's Happiny has a greater role that just a gag it also serves as representative of Brock's own goal to be a Pokemon Breeder. I also told you this so many times the joke is that it is comically strong for example it carries a bigger rock than all the others to make a dam, here it is told to take care of a Metagross it succeeds for a while, here is the set up to a joke where another first stage Pokemon fails to lift a rock and here is the conclusion to the joke where it effortlessly lifts the rock (it is admittedly split apart by one scene if you could wait)
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Literally already been seen and handled by Ant
Brock's happiny and its comical strength feats are all a gag. Its literally JUST Brock's Happiny that does this and it shouldnt be used to scale other Pokemon.
This happens because sneaky people like to sneak in sneaky calcs in big verses.
I don't care. Rules are rules. Ant is one person. Other staff can decide what to do with it.
It's a specifically strong Happiny. Nothing wrong with that, Pokemon vary in power, that's how Totem and some Alpha Pokemon come to be.
It shouldn't, there's better feats generally.
let's see
Blatant lie, at most it can be inconsistent due to plot inconsistencies. Those are mistakes, not actual rules.
Adressed in the first season of the anime, stats don't reperesent the actual pokemon and the actual skill so they're mostly ignored
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Meanwhile the verse genuienly had a Pokemon Go calc that uses default animations and incorrect sizing to scale everything??? Where was the contents of that feat talked about exactly? If that managed to get through genuinely, then i really cant trust past accepted CRTs for this verse were accurate (or remain accurate)
More like you just want to fuel the fire and create further issues from my pov? Genuinely what is the point of your intrusion here? We literally moved on then you come in like a hall way monitor. Go revert the edit if it bothers you that bad,
Old calc, never got updated properly
Dunno, somewhere in the 2018-2019, maybe 2017 era, good luck searching.
If they were in 2017 then yeah, but most of the stuff is now gone, like we're removing all the mystery dungeon stuff and such.
That is what I a trying to say that's why I specifically brought up it out doing other Pokemon I just recall having to tell you no the Happiny feats aren't something that are joke we shouldn't seriously consider, but a joke that really just means it is a comically strong Happiny no one should scale to
The sprinkler system explained that one
