PMMM AP upgrade (again)

[Kaltias]

Also, shouldn't the AoC's speed scale from False Madoka?

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

It should, since you know, False Homura killed her.

 

[AguilaR101]

Where does their reality warping come from anyway?

 

[Kaltias]

Of the witches? Elly doing this to Madoka and the creation of labyrinths in general, out of the top of my head

 

[AguilaR101]

Wouldn't pocket reality manip be more accurate? for the average witch at least as they need a labyrinth, but walpurgis would have reality warping outright as she can do the same without need of one

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Not really since Elly also affected Madoka with it.

 

[AguilaR101]

Pocekt reality manip doesn't necessarily exclude the ability to affect whoever walks inside of it though.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

I mean, takes Iskandar and Shiro reality marbel for example. They can created seperate space and manipulated it to an extend by they seema cannot affected something that was originally from outside of their RM. Elly however can do what Iskandar and Shiro do and can affected something that wasn't from her labyrinth.

 

[AguilaR101]

Yes but that doesn't mean all other characters who have the ability aren't capable of doing it.

Iskandar and Shirou's RMs are limited to a very specific function, they're not like labyrinths where the witch can alter its structure and contents with a tought, which extends to other people inside of it.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

I can't recall any pocket reality manip users that can affects peoples that wasn't from their power tho.

 

[Kaltias]

Madoka wasn't inside the labyrinth yet tho

 

[AguilaR101]

She was in the outskirts of it at least.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

It still able to affect her tho, even from the outskirts.

 

[Kaltias]

The pocket reality manipulation page doesn't mention anything about affecting the people inside tho. Only the structure of the pocket reality itself.

 

[AguilaR101]

It doesn't exclude the ability to do that though, it does also include the ability to warp the reality inside.

 

[Kaltias]

I guess. I'm neutral about removing the RW personally.

Btw for Tart dura, what should we do? Rate it unknown? She has a 7 and 9 is 6-B

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Island level perhaps?

 

[Kaltias]

I don't think that it's viable. As I said, from 0.5 to 6 it works because we have some values to scale. I don't think that we can guess exactly where her defense is if it can be anywhere from 7-A to 6-B

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

@Kaltias

I agree with your original post.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Just noticed, why is AoC range in its False Homura key listed several hundreds meters? Shouldn't it has the same range as its true body as well? And someone forget the eventually become multiversal+ part so it should be added too.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Just noticed, why is AoC range in its False Homura key listed several hundreds meters? Shouldn't it has the same range as its true body as well? And someone forget the eventually become multiversal+ part so it should be added too.

Just want to bump this.

 

[Kaltias]

I'll fix it later

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Also Kal, change you avi will you. A Goddess image doesn't really fit for Mami tbh. She is more like a queen to me.

 

[Kaltias]

Nah I like that one

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Kay. But seriously, Mami doesn't really fit with the goddess image, she is more to a queen or idol to me. It's like saying Homura will looks so good in that white dress and that shiny wings or saying Kyoko will looks good in pink outfit.

 

[Kaltias]

It's a matter of personal taste I guess. It's better if we discuss this on my wall tho

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Nah, I'm good. Can't really do anything when it comes to personal matter.

 

[Kaltias]

So, stuff left to discuss:

1) No Reality Warping for regular witches but only pocket reality manip (neutral myself, it's basically a change in semantic)

2) Tart's dura (still think that it should be unknown)

3) [added now] Do the magical girls qualify as Reactive Power Level users due to the Zenkai thing from Portable?

 

[SomebodyData]

1) They should have both, PRW is specifically meant for pocket realities, even though we've seen witches affect the outside world and Madoka.

2) Which form?

3) Ye

 

[Kaltias]

Full power and restricted base.

 

[SomebodyData]

Ok, yeah it should probably be rated Unknown