Paraconsistent Physiology Checklist

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

A while ago, a thread was made to check the various forms of Paraconsistent Physiology left over from when it was treated as Transduality/Nonduality. From that, a few users and I realized that several verses may or may not qualify under its current requirements. The purpose of this CRT is to give users a clearer standard for checking whether their verse, or specific characters within it, still qualify for Paraconsistent Physiology under the current requirements.

To simplify, Paraconsistent Physiology is a state that defies Classical Logic.

• For example, if Character A is not Character A, that violates the Law of Identity, since classical logic holds that A is A.
• Likewise, if Character A is alive and not alive at the same time and in the same sense, that violates the Law of Non-Contradiction.
• If Character A is neither alive nor not alive, that violates the Law of Excluded Middle, since classical logic does not allow a third option such as “both,” “neither,” or another truth value.

With that in mind, simply being both alive and not alive would only violate the classical logic of one property and would be Type 1. Violating classical logic more broadly would be Type 2, while Type 3 specifically covers cases of many-valued logic, where the state cannot be defined by true, false, both, or neither.

Notes​

• While dualities can qualify, they must follow a form of yes/no, true/false, or A/not-A. Fire and water may be treated as dualities in fiction, but logically, something is either water or not water, not “water or fire.”
• The same applies to Yin and Yang. Even if Yin is female and Yang is male, the negation of male is not male, not female. So Yin/Yang only qualifies if the verse treats them as actual logical negations.
• Lastly, it should be noted that Paraconsistent Physiology does not automatically grant broad interaction immunity. Any resistance, immunity, or special interaction should depend on what the verse actually shows. In other words, even if a character exists outside or beyond a system of classical logic, that does not automatically mean they are immune to everything that operates within that system. The verse must specifically show that their paraconsistent nature prevents certain effects from working on them.

Qualifies:	Yin Tian Shen Yin (Type 3; Proven Immunities), Tensura (Type 1; No Proven Immunities), Wizard101 (Type 2; No Proven Immunities), The Elder Scrolls (Type 3; No Proven Immunities), Supernatural (Type 2; No Proven Immunities)
Disqualifies:

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Yin_Tian_Shen_Yin

YTSY verse qualifies for all of their PP types.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

• Too vast, too complex. The gray-black radiance emanating from it pierced through the entire Sealed Multiverse, being one of those thirteen beams of light. This was called Reincarnation-an intricate, colossal macro-structure that transcended spacetime, karma, and even the entire multiverse itself. Compared to it, the Great Path of naturally born multiverses seemed as feeble and laughable as playdough molded by slugs. Yet it remained but a crude tool, originally crafted to remember all names, and later to ensure all names could be remembered. Everything within it had not truly died-not waiting, but stubbornly advancing, just like that family. They weren't dead yet. Their wife and mother still prayed, remembering them. Only when no one left in the entire multiverse could recall them would their True Spirits enter Reincarnation.
  — Monsters Die When They Are Killed - Chapter 855

• There was much, much more emerging from the gears rotating within those eyes. It was a scene from beyond time and space, beyond the universal logic, consciousness, and imagination of humanity, almost impossible to describe with any language. Some saw a life of poverty, dying as a war refugee. Others saw a past of wealth and luxury, living freely as a nobleman. Yet, humans were the minority. Whether it was frogs or squids, eagles or apple trees, those in the sea, the sky, the earth, or the void of the universe—all were caught in the rotating illusions, facing their end and a new beginning. Reincarnation.
  — Monsters Die When They Are Killed - Chapter 498

• The cycle of the strong devouring the weak, the weak consuming the minute, and the minute preying on the strong-this is Reincarnation, order, and reason. But it cannot move forward. Fire and meat create cooked food; merely hammering steel against steel can forge swords, plows, armor, tanks, rockets, and spaceships, and even more. Rather than an endless cycle of repetition, it is better to forge a path.
  — Monsters Die When They Are Killed - Chapter 498

• Reversing the yin and yang of time and space, the eternal cycle of reincarnation without end, neither born nor destroyed, neither tainted nor pure, neither increasing nor decreasing
  — Monsters Die When They Are Killed - Chapter 484

• But just as the relativity, comparison, and Reincarnation of 'being' and 'nothingness' form the first Taiji.
  — Monsters Die When They Are Killed - Chapter 953

• Wuji gave rise to Taiji, Taiji divided into Yin and Yang, and from these two colors emerged the infinite diversity of existence.
  — Monsters Die When They Are Killed - Chapter 949

• Just as within Yin there was Yang, and within Yang there was Yin-the Taiji.
  — Monsters Die When They Are Killed - Chapter 949

• And then, a rumbling sound echoed through the void, as if some invisible force was operating in the depths of nothingness. In the depths of the darkness, layers upon layers of light ignited, transforming into massive gears that interlocked and rotated in the abyss of the void, resembling one Reincarnation nested within another. Each turn of a gear would drive the rotation of countless others, and this interconnected cycle of Reincarnation was the embodiment of causality.
  — Monsters Die When They Are Killed - Chapter 480

[Reincarnation] has nested duality within it.

• "Balance is order and imbalance is chaos."
  — Soul of Searing Steel - Chapter 130

• Sun and Moon lost their luster when it arrived, the sea boiled, and all balance, be it warmth and cold, light and darkness, even life and death was broken.
  — Soul of Searing Steel - Chapter 755

• ["-The principle of all ages, the origin of all truths; the Balance of all realms, the standard of all measures—"] ["-Naming all existence, weighing heaven and earth; fate ordained, sin eternally judged-"]
  — Monsters Die When They Are Killed - Chapter 761

• The same hue might be called 'black' in one mind, 'red' in another. Some saw emptiness there, others a turbid blend of colors defying name. All were correct. Between races, differing electromagnetic perceptions and Spiritual Energy frequencies transformed a single red apple into dozens, hundreds, even infinite variations of color and form. Some saw nourishment, others poison, inedible waste, or a terrifying invasive species. All were correct. So how might these disparate realms and races, these irreconcilable perceptions and logics, these perhaps fundamentally incompatible existences, breach this tragic Barrier? How could beings who observe the same world (truth) yet derive countless different right answers communicate their thoughts—how might one soul comprehend another? The answer was Balance. The naming of all things. Through Balance, two utterly dissimilar souls find common ground while preserving differences. Through Balance, two extreme ideologies grasp the starting point of mutual understanding. Through Balance, born from mutual compromise among All Living Beings, souls relinquished describing the world purely through personal perception. Instead, they created language—a blend of objective and subjective third-party methods to define objects, existences, truths. Then bestowed names acceptable to all. Thus everything began. Balance arbitrated mortal perceptions, defined all existence, named heaven and earth, and measured universal standards-enabling communication between living beings and understanding between wills.
  — Monsters Die When They Are Killed - Chapter 761

• Are all things ranked in superiority and inferiority? No, and yes. Can all things be equated? Yes, and no. The truth of [Balance] lies precisely in this duality of 'is and is not,' 'can and cannot.'
  — Monsters Die When They Are Killed - Chapter 783

• As previously stated regarding the essence of Balance: Are all things equal in rank and value? No, and yes. Can all things truly be equated? They can, and they cannot. This duality-the existence and absence, the possibility and impossibility-is the true essence of [Balance]. The same applied to the cosmos and All Living Beings. Theoretically, they were both Minds, both entitled to live and pursue their truths.
  — Monsters Die When They Are Killed - Chapter 783

[Balance] also explains that the duality it contains the duality of "is" and "is not" and even the paradox of no and yes existing at the same time.

Now, for the existing PP on the profile itself:

Paraconsistent Physiology (Type 3; [Absolute] makes it so one can't be affected by any kind of complex or volatile skill, including ones that are illusory or spiritual, because they have transcended all boundaries. As such, even attacks that make every aspect and principle of the universe equal, parallel, symmetrical, balanced, stable, complementing, nullifying, and corresponding, ridding it of change and possibility, are unable to truly affect them)

• Paraconsistent Physiology (Type 3; Initial Flames are formed from countless bits of information of both 'Existence', 'Non-Existence', and 'Ambiguity')

Paraconsistent Physiology (Type 3; Transcenders are the absolute, infinite eternity that surpasses the duality of life and death upon which all logic is founded, as well as the opposition of life and death. All concepts exist as an infinite spectrum of two poles, and all the infinite forms of logic and perception are correct. Furthermore, Transcender's transcend the infinite cycle of [Reincarnation], which is the cycling of all states of duality, including nested dualities)

Paraconsistent Physiology (Type 3; Great Existences can be perceived in terms of good and evil, right and wrong, justice and evil, yes and no, by both mortals and Transcendent Gods. However, such beings are like blind men touching an elephant—anyone unable to transcend time and space cannot perceive their true nature, at most only glimpsing a partial facet)

 

[Deonment]

I will reiterate what was said in the CN thread and state a disagreement with the idea of doing this as an overall thread rather than going verse by verse for such a matter, but if we are going to go ahead with this anyways I'll just go ahead and link this for the list of characters that currently have paraconsistent physiology (or at the very least, who have the category) and quote my past self on discord about verses that don't qualify for such (made in like 2025)

sonic as a whole doesn't qualify (and got downgraded earlier anyways, just didn't get the tag removed)
lucifer doesn't qualify
dark tower maybe could, but the justifications don't work
the unwritten doesn't qualify
everything in martial peak that isn't primal chaos and yang kai don't qualify (and i doubt those two also qualify)
adventure time doesn't have nonduality for anything but the cosmic mind, and everything else just didn't get the tag removed from them after it got downgraded
pretty sure cui heng doesn't qualify with our current standards (unless we accept self/other or unity/division as valid dualities)
cradle as is doesn't qualify by our standards
if nonexistence and existence doesn't count as a duality (which i doubt, but yeah), a bunch of verses don't qualify
GoW didn't lose the nonduality tag when they got downgraded (and even if they didn't then they would get downgraded)
aleph's god doesn't seem to qualify (esp given the page has not a scan or quote on it)
the gods of heaven have 0 scans
HooH doesn't qualify
very unsure about judge holden
li qiye wasn't updated when his nonduality got removed
not sure about xu jingming
Wei Huo may not qualify
wang wei is another page that didn't get the tag removed after a crt
the void (DC) doesn't qualify
unsure about the source
the pixel gun player doesn't qualify (or if they do, not in a way that's relevant for a profile)
if self/other doesn't qualify then sassy is out
raziel doesn't qualify
mystic flower cookie doesn't qualify
the mother of existence doesn't qualify
god of highschool was the verse that started this entire thing, it doesn't qualify

As for verses that do, Wizard101 is the most explicit example ever

In the world of mundane illusion, Death is the absence of Life, Shadow is the absence of Light, and Chaos is the absence of Order. The opposite is also true: Life the absence of Death, Light the absence of Shadow, Order the absence of Chaos. Each defined by its own opposite. Is there a thing that has no opposite to define it? A thing that is its own opposite? Can there be such a thing as Nothing? To let understanding end at what cannot be understood is a great attainment. Those who cannot do this will be destroyed on the Lathe of Heaven.

With Bartleby, The Player, and The Nothing each transcending the boundaries of the Spider and Raven who are Death/Shadow/Chaos and Life/Light/Order respectively, with such things applying to the whole of the wheel/spiral, so they should keep their PP2

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

[Reincarnation] has nested duality within it.

[Balance] also explains that the duality it contains the duality of "is" and "is not" and even the paradox of no and yes existing at the same time.

Now, for the existing PP on the profile itself:

Since I added the verse, I'm obviously biased, but seeing as it's been cleared for Logic Manipulation for similar scans in the past, this is fine.

I will reiterate what was said in the CN thread and state a disagreement with the idea of doing this as an overall thread rather than going verse by verse for such a matter, but if we are going to go ahead with this anyways I'll just go ahead and link this for the list of characters that currently have paraconsistent physiology (or at the very least, who have the category) and quote my past self on discord about verses that don't qualify for such (made in like 2025)

This will be different from that thread, since you can choose if you want to have a verse verified here or not. If you want to do it in your own CRT, feel free, but the verses that qualify or disqualify on this CRT can be used and referenced as well.

This will just be faster for the most part.

As for verses that do, Wizard101 is the most explicit example ever

Yeah, that fits.

With Bartleby, The Player, and The Nothing each transcending the boundaries of the Spider and Raven who are Death/Shadow/Chaos and Life/Light/Order respectively, with such things applying to the whole of the wheel/spiral, so they should keep their PP2

Looked at their profiles, and that checks out as well. Are there any scans about how this affects interactions with those qualities? This doesn't affect whether a character has PP, but it will determine if it's useful in matches.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

This is for Tensura.
I was gonna revise it anyways, but this helps me determine what needs more explanation and what is already enough and make my future thread better
.

These are the following pages:

1. Cosmology Page (Dualities)
2. Great Holy Spirit (Nonduality)

The attribute of time in cosmology page also has Nonduality.
That's all. There is another thread going on to give another thing PP1 but I'll assume that is better dealt with in its own thread.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

This is for Tensura.
I was gonna revise it anyways, but this helps me determine what needs more explanation and what is already enough and make my future thread better
.

These are the following pages:

1. Cosmology Page (Dualities)
2. Great Holy Spirit (Nonduality)

The attribute of time in cosmology page also has Nonduality.
That's all. There is another thread going on to give another thing PP1 but I'll assume that is better dealt with in its own thread.

That reminds me, we need to add the scans ( or if it's already there, make it more obvious) that the demons were created by the world itself to counteract the creations of the angels. This adds further proof to their duality)

 

[Deonment]

This will be different from that thread, since you can choose if you want to have a verse verified here or not. If you want to do it in your own CRT, feel free, but the verses that qualify or disqualify on this CRT can be used and referenced as well.

This will just be faster for the most part.

Okay

Looked at their profiles, and that checks out as well. Are there any scans about how this affects interactions with those qualities? This doesn't affect whether a character has PP, but it will determine if it's useful in matches.

Do not remember

Anyways TES Qualifies
CHIMsters explicitly exist beyond duplicity and antithesis

What is the Tower’s secret?

How to permanently exist beyond duplexity, antithesis, or trouble. This is not an easy concept, I know. Imagine being able to feel with all of your senses the relentless alien terror that is God and your place in it, which is everywhere and therefore nowhere, and realizing that it means the total dissolution of your individuality into boundless being. Imagine that and then still being able to say “I”. The “I” is the Tower.

and are returned to the first brush of Anu-Padomay, aka the Aurbis

What is the purpose of the Psijic Endeavor?

To transcend mortal boundaries set in place by immortal rulers. At its simplest, the state of chim provides an escape from all known laws of the divine worlds and the corruptions of the black sea of Oblivion. It is a return to the first brush of Anu-Padomay, where stasis and change created possibility. Moreso, it the essence needed to hold that ‘dawning’ together without disaster. One that knows CHIM observes the Tower without fear. Moreso: he resides within.

Which are the laws and concepts the gods embody, notable here is the law of time, static change, which Aka was the basis of, and with which Aka which is the state in which the original spirits of the et'eda exhibited

The Spokes are the eight components of chaos, as yet solidified by the law of time: static change, if you will, something the lizard gods refer to as the Striking. That is the reptile wheel, coiled potential, ever-preamble to the never-action.

Aspects of the Aurbis then asked for a schedule to follow or procedures whereby they might enjoy themselves a little longer outside of perfect knowledge. So that he might know himself this way, too, Anu created Auriel, the soul of his soul. Auriel bled through the Aurbis as a new force, called time. With time, various aspects of the Aurbis began to understand their natures and limitations. They took names, like Magnus or Mara or Xen. One of these, Lorkhan, was more of a limit than a nature, so he could never last long anywhere.

Lorkhan, in his nature, was then the negation of Aka, the I AM NOT to Aka's I AM

The Aedroth Aka, who goes by so many names as to perhaps already suggest what I’m about to commit to memospore, is completely insane. His mind broke when his “perch from Eternity allowed the day” and we of all the Aurbis live on through its fragments, ensnared in the temporal writings and erasures of the acausal whim that he begat by saying “I AM”. In the aetheric thunder of self-applause that followed (nay, rippled until convention, that is, amnesia), is it any wonder that the Time God would hate the same-twin on the other end of the aurbrilical cord, the Space God? That any Creation would become so utterly dangerous because of that singular fear of a singular word’s addition: “I AM NOT”?

That all the Interplay is one flea of assertion on a wolf of naught, and that every experience (that is, everything) born from that primal wail would cascade unto the echo-need of hologram, each slice the same except for scale, and all the magic that would need to spring forth just to hold it together at living, divine cross-purpose, support struts made from the need to exist (axial, along its two-headed fighting rays, each refusing their origin point, that is, Tower), terrestons versus chronocules, and in the end (an end that ever refuses to hold) it all becomes a lobotomized (for what is not lobal if not the dracochoreography made flesh?), reptilian (coiled), and massive map-god (holding a compass, holding a timepiece), drooling (the water from which we dragged ourselves out of to say, mirror-like, autochthonic, automatic, “WE ARE, TOO”) on his countless knees, dementia given dimension, dimension dementia…

Existing as the fundamental opposite of Aka
Beyond these two, are Anuiel and Sithis, of which Aka and Lorkhan exist as the next aspect/soul down in the line of subgradients

As the process of subcreation continued, both Anu and Padhome awakened. For to see your antithesis is to finally awaken. Each gave birth to their souls, Auriel and Sithis, and these souls regarded the Aurbis each in their own part, and from this came the etada, the original patterns. These etada eventually congealed.

Anu's firstborn, for he mostly desired order, was time, anon Akatosh. Padhome's firstborn went wandering from the start, changing as he went, and wanted no name but was branded with Lorkhan. As time allowed more and more patterns to individualize, Lorkhan watched the Aurbis shape itself and grew equally delighted and tired with each new shaping. As the gods and demons of the Aurbis erupted, the get of Padhome tried to leave it all behind for he wanted all of it and none of it all at once. It was then that he came to the border of the Aurbis.

At first the Aurbis was turbulent and confusing, as Anuiel's ruminations went on without design. Aspects of the Aurbis then asked for a schedule to follow or procedures whereby they might enjoy themselves a little longer outside of perfect knowledge. So that he might know himself this way, too, Anu created Auriel, the soul of his soul. Auriel bled through the Aurbis as a new force, called time. With time, various aspects of the Aurbis began to understand their natures and limitations. They took names, like Magnus or Mara or Xen. One of these, Lorkhan, was more of a limit than a nature, so he could never last long anywhere.

Sithis is the start of the house. Before him was nothing, but the foolish Altmer have names for and revere this nothing. That is because they are lazy slaves. Indeed, from the Sermons, 'stasis asks merely for itself, which is nothing.'

Sithis sundered the nothing and mutated the parts, fashioning from them a myriad of possibilities. These ideas ebbed and flowed and faded away and this is how it should have been.

One idea, however, became jealous and did not want to die; like the stasis, he wanted to last. This was the demon Anui-El, who made friends, and they called themselves the Aedra. They enslaved everything that Sithis had made and created realms of everlasting imperfection. Thus are the Aedra the false gods, that is, illusion.

So Sithis begat Lorkhan and sent him to destroy the universe. Lorkhan! Unstable mutant!

And there is more to show such, but it should be enough to show their transcendence over those two, and of course, as in the first quote, beyond even them are Anu and Padomay who transcend even them, there's so much I can send abt that but I don't think it's needed considering, once again, the first quote
And beyond even them is the Dreamer/Godhead/Amaranth, but that's 0 and thus doesn't need to be brought up here

 

[Vesxpura]

Even if Yin is female and Yang is male

would dead and alive qualify? dead is by definition the negation of alive just not in the format ¬p

 

[AlexSamDen]

would dead and alive qualify? dead is by definition the negation of alive just not in the format ¬p

Iirc one point brought up against dead/alive in the thread were undead

And the classic - rock

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Cosmology Page (Dualities)

Not really seeing any negations here, dualities sure, but not negations.

Great Holy Spirit (Nonduality)

Existence and Nonexistence, so this is fine for Type 1.

Anyways TES Qualifies

First scan is pretty explicit. Why is it listed as Type 2 instead of Type 3, though? Also, any scans of how interaction works afterwards for Immunity?

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Question? what about verses where its accepted (from past crts) for a verses whole cosmological structure, but currently no characters scales too it at all? (Thus not on profiles). I know 1 verse like that.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Question? what about verses where its accepted (from past crts) for a verses whole cosmological structure, but currently no characters scales too it at all? (Thus not on profiles). I know 1 verse like that.

If there is a cosmological structure that has PP, then it can be evaluated, otherwise no real point.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

If there is a cosmological structure that has PP, then it can be evaluated, otherwise no real point.

Let me find the crt that's the only way too see it as theres no verse explanation page or a section in an existing blog. Might take me sometime. Busy irl

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Nonduality -- Saint Seiya Part 1

I believe there is evidence suggesting the concept of Nonduality (specifically Logical Negations) is present within the Saint Seiya cosmology. Something to bare in mind, the Nonduality page for the wiki says that a fictional verse can define its own form of dualities so long as their a negation...

vsbattles.com

Didn't take as long as i thought

Only option 2 was accepted though i still think option 1 has a stronger case. Will probably reattamept in the future.

Spoiler: Option 2 arguments

Agyo and Unagyo are counters to each other. They negate each other.

Ungyo = "The End" / Darkness / Death / Destruction / Yin

Agyo = "The beginning" / Light / Life / Creation / Yang

These 2 forces negate each other as seen in the text where "Agyo" was stated to be Tearing up/ripping up/destroying Ungyo. This is a form of Negation because both cannot be true at the same time. One will end up annihilating's/destroying the other. hence the line "Tearing up the darkness."

and its straight up stated that "Agyo" a "Counter" to "Ungyo." This is a statement of negation.

These negations become a cyclical cycle that's called "Samsara" as you can see in the below scan the continuous negations happening between Agyo and Ungyo is causing the creation, and destruction of countless universes, and the birth and death of countless lives. This is because neither truth state can co-exist at the same time in the same setting due to the nature of their negation.

The argument isn't Yin amd Yang but these cosmic forces cannot co existand negate each others existence

 

[Deonment]

First scan is pretty explicit. Why is it listed as Type 2 instead of Type 3, though? Also, any scans of how interaction works afterwards for Immunity?

Wdym instead of type 3? I'm assuming you mean for the gods, or do you mean for aka/lorkhan?
And no, not exactly, not anything that could be explained as PP exclusively at the, the gods themselves already exist in weird states even in their more "mortal" states, and most of the interaction we see of them is in their even more limited states, whether as a result of Lorkhan or Aka

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Wdym instead of type 3? I'm assuming you mean for the gods, or do you mean for aka/lorkhan?

For CHIM.

Duplexity and Antithesis would encompass all variations of true and false, so that means they exist in a third state. So why is it listed as Type 2 on the profiles, and not Type 3?

Has it just not been updated in a while?

 

[Re5yh]

Umm, should this be a staff discussion?

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Umm, should this be a staff discussion?

This is a thread for users to check if their verses PP still qualify, since a lot of profiles haven't been updated since it used to be Transduality/Nonduality. If this were a staff discussion, they wouldn't be able to speak.

 

[Deonment]

For CHIM.

Duplexity and Antithesis would encompass all variations of true and false, so that means they exist in a third state. So why is it listed as Type 2 on the profiles, and not Type 3?

Has it just not been updated in a while?

I mean, the state of CHIM sends one back to the state of the primal et'ada so it applies to both

Anyways, I guess, I was mainly under the impression of Duplexity here not actually being relevant in comparison to the mention of antithesis, under the assumption that duplexity would be taken as the same as a statement of duality, because that's what duality/duplexity means?

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Anyways, I guess, I was mainly under the impression of Duplexity here not actually being relevant in comparison to the mention of antithesis, under the assumption that duplexity would be taken as the same as a statement of duality, because that's what duality/duplexity means?

Well, PP is fine, I just think you could upgrade it to Type 3 if you want.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

I'm going to use this space to formulate a question.

Do Everything and Nothing count as such?

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

I'm going to use this space to formulate a question.

Do Everything and Nothing count as such?

What are you asking?

I assume you're talking about existence and nonexistence, which are pretty much the baseline duality.

Only option 2 was accepted though i still think option 1 has a stronger case. Will probably reattamept in the future.

Are there any statements that confirm light and darkness are properties or concepts that are participated in? Anything stating something is either one or the other?

 

[Phsccarvalho]

What are you asking?

If everything and nothing counts as logical negation, then what about that power with the complicated name.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

If everything and nothing counts as logical negation, then what about that power with the complicated name.

Yeah, they are.

NEP Type 2 is essentially PP for Existence and Nonexistence.

 

[Deonment]

Gonna just go ahead and ask because despite them being obviously such to me, our standards on such may be different, do self and other and unity and division count as logical dualitys by our standards

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Gonna just go ahead and ask because despite them being obviously such to me, our standards on such may be different, do self and other and unity and division count as logical dualitys by our standards

If you're talking about unity in terms of wholeness, then yeah, I agree.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Are there any statements that confirm light and darkness are properties or concepts that are participated in? Anything stating something is either one or the other?

the cycle of Samsara which is the name for the outcome/results of these cosmic forces negating each other is a concept. But your looking at it wrong and that might be my fault. Light and darkness are not concepts but examples of things participating in something greater

Agyo and Ungyo are the "something greater"

Agyo represents "The beginning" / Light / Life / Creation / Yang

Ungyo Represents = "The End" / Darkness / Death / Destruction / Yin

Agyo and Ungyo are the cosmic forces that create Samsara through their negation of each other.*

Samsara is Time (which is stated to be a concept twice in verse)

Everything Samsara Governs

Time (Past, Present, Future, History)
Causality, Fate, Destiny
Change, States, Transitions
Reincarnation
Souls And Their Shapes
Life and Death
Karma
Dimensions (The Life and Birth of Universes would require at minimum 3+1 Dimensions.)

Although none of this is accepted yet, but i have a blog sandbox im working on about Samsara in verse for a future crt.

So technically im getting a little ahead of myself here lol

Im going to assume that since theres no mention, or proof of conceptualism, and no accepted crt of concepts, that your answer changes to a no doesn't qualify?

 

[Deonment]

If you're talking about unity in terms of wholeness, then yeah, I agree.

Meanwhile Self and other?
I'd assume it's also hard yes, but I'm just clarifying

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Meanwhile Self and other?
I'd assume it's also hard yes, but I'm just clarifying

I would say so, since I doubt any verse would use the idea of no-self/non-self.

 

[Hecky2222]

Marvel should be checked too. From what I see their scans are existence and nonexistence(and somehow that alone gives them PP2)

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Marvel should be checked too. From what I see their scans are existence and nonexistence(and somehow that alone gives them PP2)

You can post the justifications here if you want them checked.

 

[Robo432343]

Paraconsistent Physiology (Type 2: Absorbed The Darkness, the other half value of a binary system, thusly erasing the dualistic system and rules that binds their existence, as he embodies both dualities) - God (Supernatural)

not sure about this

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

The profiles are really bad, and basically scanless, but I did find these statements in their related blog;

CHUCK: Amara’s been caged for billions of years, but y’know, she was always there. She had to be there. Y’know, yin and yang. Dark and light.

DEAN: English, Chuck.

(With an exasperated huff, CHUCK waves a hand and the Winchesters are downstairs.)

CHUCK: There’s a harmony, a balance, in the universe. Light needs dark. Dark needs light. If you blow one of them up, then, I mean— LUCIFER: It wouldn’t be a good thing.

CHUCK: It’d be really not a good thing. Like ‘end of reality’ not good.

DEAN: I don't have a choice. What you're doing to the sun—

AMARA: That's not me. With my brother getting weaker, the scales are tipping away from light.

DEAN: And into darkness.

AMARA: Into nothing. When God's gone, the universe—everything will cease to exist. Including me.

CHUCK: I am being. She's nothingness. It's not exactly the makings of a fun two-hander, you know?

METATRON: Yeah. But you didn't stop at one archangel or a handful of angels. You created worlds.

CHUCK: I was stupid. Naive. I thought if I could show my sister that there was something more than just us, something better than us, then maybe she'd change. Maybe she'd stop... being... her. But... every time I'd build a new world... she'd destroy it.

METATRON: So you and your archangels... locked her away? And you got down to unfettered Creation.

Existence (Being) and Nonexistence, Light and Dark, Yin and Yang, combined with the Binary System statement, make PP fine in my eyes.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Gonna just go ahead and ask because despite them being obviously such to me, our standards on such may be different, do self and other and unity and division count as logical dualitys by our standards

No I'm p sure.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

No I'm p sure.

I would say that unity, understood as wholeness rather than mere oneness, has division as its negation.

Unity can mean the unification of a multitude, in which case its negation is the breakdown or division of that unity. But if unity is understood as becoming one with something, then its negation would be multiplicity, plurality, or separation.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

I would say that unity, understood as wholeness rather than mere oneness, has division as its negation.

Unity can mean the unification of a multitude, in which case its negation is the breakdown or division of that unity. But if unity is understood as becoming one with something, then its negation would be multiplicity, plurality, or separation.

I'm actually not sure anymore but it's a weird case.