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Papyrus vs Sans

Karmic Retribution would do nothing to Papyrus meaning it is 1 damage per attack

Papyrus has 680 HP Sans HP is likely one (even the undertale wiki says so) and Papyrus should be able to at the very least get lucky

If papyrus was evil though then sans would stomp
 
Papyrus has bone manipulation to kill sans since he is a skeleton sure sans might do the same but pap is more durable and pap has not committed any sins(apart from the sin of pride and lust)Papyrus also has blue mode.

Sans : Smarter,Faster,HAX,Older,

Papyrus: Stronger, AP, more durable, Stamina

It's tie to me since both can use bone manipulation to kill the other skeleton
 
Sans bypasses durability, and he's very capable of fighting someone stronger than him.

Also why is stamina one of Papy's advantages? Papyrus got tired out in his battle too, and Sans' attack patterns are far more complex, not to mention he had to dodge an immensely faster Frisk's attacks, whereas Papyrus didn't have to dodge any (he tires out even if you don't hit him).

Also Sans' attacks aren't based on sins.
 
Resistance to what? Papyrus has no resistance that would help him against Sans.

Resistance to Soul Manip is something everyone has, especially Chara. Sans' own soul manip bypass resistance.
 
The resistance chara has is different. Paps resistance allows him to tank it physically, and he could do it for days.

Sans only ignores durability (which is resistance to soul destruction) with it, nothing else.
 
Saikou The Lewd King said:
No it's not. Chara can physically tank soul manip attacks as well. This is no different.
No.

Chara doesn't tank it with their body, the difference is very clear there.

The doul gets stronger with their body, but that dpesn't change that.
 
You do know that Chara's resistance is the very same as the ones monsters get, right? They both come from being able to take hits from soul attacks from Monsters in general.
 
Monsters actualy demostrated the ability to take the hit to the body (asgore and undyne).

Frisk has never actualy done that,
 
So you're saying that monsters resist soul manip differently just because of animation differences? Because that's literally it right now honestly. Also we only see Frisk's soul in combat. It doesn't mean that they can't take attacks like monsters do.

Also you seem to assume that soul attack = intangible when that's not the case. Monsters being able to take such attacks physically does not make their resistance "better". If anything, that's the opposite.

Because soul absorption totally matters in this fight.
 
Animation? Undyne and Asgore fought in a tale.

That is not how it works. There needs to be positive proof that they can, if not it's akin to saying that "you can't prove she can't do that".


Where? Like, where did I assume that? The fact is that frisks soul is being ragdolled throughout the fight (and we know for a fact that soul and body can and do move separatly).

It's better because physicly papyrus can tank for a lot more.
 
They fought offscreen. How can you even come close to the conclusion that they resisted each other's attacks differently?

Honestly I don't even get your logic. You claim that Frisk directly taking hits from a monster's soul attack makes their resistance weaker than a monster's because said monsters showed physical damage from the attacks? Even though we only see Frisk's soul in combat so we can't actually see them take the hits physically?

It doesn't even make sense. If Frisk takes soul attacks directly to their soul instead of just taking the attack with their body, their resistance would be higher since their soul was actually targeted.
 
Your soul can be half dead and your body won't be affected.

The point is that monsters can tank attacks for much longer, especialy while not peacful.


The point is that monsters bodies have been shown to take more punishment.
 
It's tie since both can use bone manipulation to kill the other skeleton however since Sans has faster bone manipulation and papyrus' body is more durable than sans I gues it's a tie.
 
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