Pain vs Rider Iskandar

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Nagato (Pain) vs Rider (Fate/Zero)

Pain as of the start of the invasion of the village hidden in the leafss. Iskandar has Intel in so far as what the different paths do, and Pain has Intel in so far as who Iskandar was as a legendary figure (so the equivalent of a Magus who has figured out his true name, and has decent historical and mythological knowledge). Fight takes place in Fuyuki, with Nagato's body set up far away, while the paths of pain and Iskandar are a few meters apart. Speed is Equalized.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Naruto vs Fate, nice.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Yee. I don't see many matched between them despite them being popular franchises that largely inhabit the same tier

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Hmm ........ considering Broskandar knows what the Paths do, he can easily just run them over with VE (none of them have the firepower or defense to stop it at that range) or spawn IH on them (a very big deal considering he chooses peoples placement when it activates) and slaughter them by abusing the 5 second gap of ST with continous arrow rain rather than a volley. Animal path is definitely the biggest issue here since it can mitigate the enormous numbers disadvantage, something Nagato typically doesn't deal with unless they are pure fodder.

By biggest question is if activating IH will disconnect Nagato from his Paths. If so, ripperoni. If not, the fight will proceed like normal. Paths in order of usefulness though, Deva and Animal, Asura, Naraka, Human and Preta. First two, read above, Asura can carpet bomb and has pretty good maneuverability and AOE, Naraka brings them back, Human is not soul ripping anyone while Preta doesn't have much oppurtunity to drain mana here since he needs to go cqc where he gets massively outnumbered.

Nagato being far away from Pain also negs his CT which would be the go to upon seeing the army of guys who would be able to harm him. IH only lasts a few minutes but it would be enough to kill off the Paths for the most part as the only ones who can avoid it are the ones who don't need to as much as the others. A solution would be summons but VE would run any summon out of the air while the range of the bows would keep them away from the army to knock down the RM early. Giant ST could be a thing but Iskandar is hardly going to let him just fly up like some messiah. If it does hit the army and drop the RM, Deva is useless for a bit while none of the others have the ability to stop VE and get run over with a few charges. At that point, he can just go find Nagato.

Gonna vote Rider mid-diff

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Rider: 1

 

[Dzhindzholia]

Iskander is no good martial art user and he doesn't have great techniques and hax,he is just brute force.I see two scenarios here:

1.With the range of few meters given by the OP it is even more unfair.Tendo instakills him and Iskander can't do anything.Bansho Tenin+Ningendo and he is done for.It is 6 on 1 which is even more unfair,they can just beat him physically.

Low-Diff.

2.Even if he will activate IH Pain will smash his army with CT,more powerful Shinra tensei,nuke the place with Shurado or will summon multiple giant animals that will destroy the army with low difficulty.Iskander won't even hit Pain due to his shared vision with the bodies and animals.Plus he can summon an invisible lizard in which he can hide inside and do surprise attacks.

Mid diff probably.

What does Iskander scale from?Also,there is a revision going right now which will change the tier of multiple Naruto characters.

 

[Schnee_One]

<Few Meters apart

Pain one shots casually.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

1. Few meters and intel means Rider uses IH or VE instantly like against Saber where he knew it was a whoever hits first fight. 6-C attack runs over any path in his way. Tendo needs to be one shotting Iskandar = Herc > Fate Excalibur > Shirou Excalibur > Born AM > Unborn AM = 610 megatons. Human Path is completely and utterly useless as Rider resists soul manip on a far higher scale than the baseline 1 soul it is able to rip. Being outnumbered is also nothing much when Rider dodged GoB danmaku against a Gil who was semi serious, casual Gil uses 1000 portals on rapid fire.

2. IH means the Paths either get dog piled immediately or are dropped a good distance away. CT isn't usable due to the distance from Nagato and IH keeps them from moving closer. The more powerful ST will get interruptedMissiles get countered by arrow rain or shields. Summons don't even scale to the 600 ish megatons the Paths do so they get massacred by the army (their only use is to take the heat off of the Paths), invisible lizard is nice and all but Iskandar can see invisibles and has reacted to attacks from Hundred Faces who has presence erasure. A weaker level of it let a loli covered in blood walk down the street dragging a mutilated corpse and leaving a huge blood trail in broad daylight with nobody even giving it any notice.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

So... how do yall wanna vote?

 

[Dzhindzholia]

casual Gil uses 1000 portals on rapid fire.

Can you show a scene of him using 1000 portals against Iskander?

Summons don't even scale to the 600 ish megatons the Paths

Except his summons are at least equal to him physically..

Chibaku Tensei has at least 10 km are of effect.

With a distance of few meters Iskander has few chances of surviving this,Nagato has all tools needed to put him down as I said earlier.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Bump

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Can Iskandar get past Pain's Precognition?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I was not aware Pain had precog. Is it anything more notable than the precog of many servants? Almost any servant worth their salt can keep up with Precognition

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Can predict movements based on muscle movement, nothing special I guess.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Yeah, that's not really impressive relative to the precog that many servants have

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Bump