Our rules on Acausality

[Promestein]

This is absolutely unnecessary

 

[Antvasima]

I agree with Promestein.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I agree as well.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Agreed with Prom

 

[Magi_Hussie]

This is absolutely unnecessary

Besides focusing on only the Causality Manipulation part, what do think about my explanations on what I mentioned about Acausality then?

 

[Antvasima]

I think that it is better if we try to stay on topic regarding how we should modify Reppuzan's earlier explanation.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

I think that it is better if we try to stay on topic regarding how we should modify Reppuzan's earlier explanation.

I will only agree with it as along as it involves this:

1. Not removing Time Paradox Immunity from the profiles (which is not a good idea).

2. Acausality separated by only 2 levels (High Acausality and Regular Acausality).

3. Do not mix or even reword 2 completely different definitions together and calling it "Acausality" (another bad idea).

4. Leave Time Paradox Immunity as a sub-power of Paradox Manipulation and/or Paradox Defiance (or whatever else you guys might rename it), either way works and it can't be a sub-power of Acausality at all.

5. Time Paradox Immunity =/= Acausality, keep them as separate powers instead of combining them b/c we will just end up with over-com...you get the point.


Edit: I'm not introducing powers, I'm saying that TPI should not be a sub-power for Acausality.

 

[Antvasima]

I do not think that introducing new powers named paradox manipulation or paradox defiance is a good idea. You are rather derailing the thread off track here.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

I do not think that introducing new powers named paradox manipulation or paradox defiance is a good idea. You are rather derailing the thread off track here.

That will be discussed after we reached a conclusion for Acausality, I'm not introducing it right now.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

So, can the accepted changes be applied?

@Reppuzan

 

[Antvasima]

Well, Reppuzan's wording should preferably be adjusted a bit, in order to specify that time paradox immunity is just the basic level of acausality, and that there are much higher degrees of it.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Yeah, the page will have bigger explanations than just that.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. That is good.

 

[VoidGoji]

Just a question...

5-D beings are acausal by 4-D standards, because they are under "higher causality".

So... Shouldn't we change acausality to "something that has weird/transcendent causality"?

 

[Magi_Hussie]

Just a question...
5-D beings are acausal by 4-D standards, because they are under "higher causality".

So... Shouldn't we change acausality to "something that has weird/transcendent causality"?

No, it probably won't be acceptable to add in the profiles.

 

[Antvasima]

This thread does not seem to have lead anywhere, despite all of the conversation.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

This thread does not seem to have lead anywhere, despite all of the conversation.

You can close it for now I guess and this thread has reached 260 replies anyways.

 

[Antvasima]

I preferably need some confirmations from other staff members first.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

@Antvasima All right then.

 

[Kaltias]

The acausality description was updated actually.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you for the information.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

We need to revise the profiles with 'Time Paradox Immunity", then.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

It would become Acausality again correct?

 

[Antvasima]

Well, first the Acausality page needs to be rewritten to state that there are different degrees of the ability, and that the specifics should preferably be mentioned within the relevant profiles.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Yes. The Acausality page we have is too bare-bones for something so complex.

 

[Antvasima]

Agreed.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

So what are our rules fo it again? I still do not know...

 

[Antvasima]

I am afraid that I do not remember so well anymore. Regrettably, this discussion did not seem to lead to any actual actions.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

We need to remove Time Paradox Immunity and expand the Acausality page.

 

[Antvasima]

I think that Reppuzan was going to rewrite our Acausality page however, so that it included Time Paradox Immunity at its most basic level, and much greater immunity to the laws of cause and effect at its higher extremes.

 

[Kaltias]

TPI becomes acausality again, but you have to specify the degree of your acausality (not every acausal is Lavos). At least I think that this was the conclusion

 

[Antvasima]

@Matthew

Well, the Acausality page would need to be expanded first, and all pages with the Time Paradox Immunity Users category modified accordingly.

It would be quite a lot of work, and I do not know if it would yield any actual benefits.

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

So, what's the difference between a lower level acausality (TPI) and a higher level acausality?

 

[Antvasima]

TPI means immunity to being erased in the past of one's timeline. Full acausality means that the laws of cause and effect do not apply to you.

However, I am too tired to come up with a good example, and do not have the best understanding of the concept in the first place.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

We need to define these "levels" of acausality first and foremost.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, without a working system, we should keep the one that we have.

 

[ProspectX]

So Full acasuality is given to 1-A?, since they transcend the concept of dimensions all together. Like the chousin who have lower manifestions of themselves, even if they get erased in these lower dimenisons they still exist outside existence itself.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Does anyone under High 1-A have Narrative Acausality, or is that not a thing?

 

[ProspectX]

What is narrative acasuality exactly?

 

[Antvasima]

Perhaps we should close this thread, as it is very long, old, and does not seem to be going anywhere. Reppuzan, or some other well-informed staff member, could start a new one (preferably a staff only thread) that summarises the points brought up here instead.