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Just making sure since i managed to be late on a few Messages
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Oryx vs. Abel
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So Oryx can't affect Abel with taking so Abel can erase him for good so long as he gets even one attack in
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Abel resists the passive taking or even if he doesn't Oryx cannot take him because the Axiom overrides his resurrection by resurrecting Abel then Abel probably stays out of range and snipes in the case that he doesn't resist. If he does resist he bypasses Oryxs resistence to conceptual manipulation with an Almighty Attack and erases him from existence and non-existence. So I vote Abel.
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OkEmperorRorepme said:
The EE not working doesn't exactly stop the rest of the hax from working, which they do afaik.
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i mean yeah? If EE is step 1 and all the others are step 2, Oryx can't do step 1 so step 2 can't possibly go into effect since the first step can't even happen
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@Emperor
So Abel can one-shot a better version of himself + himself without any issues?
@Yvel
It's not step 1
It is the first thing that is done, but it does not inherently stop all the other shit from working if it doesn't. Literally every time Taking has been brought up in a match this has been the case, so no, Taking works.
So Abel can one-shot a better version of himself + himself without any issues?
@Yvel
It's not step 1
It is the first thing that is done, but it does not inherently stop all the other shit from working if it doesn't. Literally every time Taking has been brought up in a match this has been the case, so no, Taking works.
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So Oryx can use Taking on someone even if he can't erase them from existence.?Cause the profiles and the detailed information dosen't say its simply just another part of the Taking.
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It doesn't say it's necessary for Taking to work either
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Maybe not but it dosen't imply the opposite. And since it always mentions the opponent is erased first its more likely implies the former of EE needing to happen sice that how Oryx remakes them
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I'm going off the file so what other people say isn't relevant.
It's as Yvel said. He needs to erase first to resurrect and control. He can't resurrect without erasing. He can't have full control without resurrection. So there is no other Abel. That's the last thing I'll say on this.
It's as Yvel said. He needs to erase first to resurrect and control. He can't resurrect without erasing. He can't have full control without resurrection. So there is no other Abel. That's the last thing I'll say on this.
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>He can't have full control without resurrection
Mind rereading the powers that Taking includes for me
Mind rereading the powers that Taking includes for me
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Unless there's proof of Oryx being able to use Taking without the first step, I don't think it'll work.
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Tell that to Wokistan and WHYNAUT in several other matches.
There is 0 evidence that EE is needed for Taking to work. Zip, nadda, none. The only "evidence" any of you have managed to come up with amounts to "it sounds like it needs the EE to work, so it does and my word now supercedes that of people who know what the **** they're talking about."
There is 0 evidence that EE is needed for Taking to work. Zip, nadda, none. The only "evidence" any of you have managed to come up with amounts to "it sounds like it needs the EE to work, so it does and my word now supercedes that of people who know what the **** they're talking about."
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Ok so tell me how is Oryx going to resurrect someone without erasing them.
If Wok comes here and says that or the stuff on the profile changes I'll tale it into account. Can you post tge thread where he says EE isn't needed.
If Wok comes here and says that or the stuff on the profile changes I'll tale it into account. Can you post tge thread where he says EE isn't needed.
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Then why does it say that on the profile?
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It doesn't say that on the profile.
I genuinely don't know where you're getting this.
I genuinely don't know where you're getting this.
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I literally screenshotted and showed it to you
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The profile doesn't even say that that's the first step. It says it erases them and that they are turned into Taken. He doesn't first erase you entirely and then make a Taken version of you. The erasure functions like a sort of corruption. Also the description on the profile is pretty old and may need a rework.
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It says Taking first erases beings from existence. Then it says Taking brings them back as Oryxs slaves. That's where I got it from.
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You screenshotted the description of the ability and said that it says something that it demonstratably doesn't
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Then reword it. Tf.
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@Why
Fine then. Even if it only erases parts of you it still dosen't change that Abel is immune to EE so it wouldn't erase any of him
Fine then. Even if it only erases parts of you it still dosen't change that Abel is immune to EE so it wouldn't erase any of him
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HI3 this is what it say verbatim
"Arguably Oryx's most useful ability, erases other beings from existence and brings them back empowered and possessed by the darkness, totally subservient to the will of Oryx."
1.Erasure 2.Resurrection
If the ability is corruption then why is it listed as erasure?
"Arguably Oryx's most useful ability, erases other beings from existence and brings them back empowered and possessed by the darkness, totally subservient to the will of Oryx."
1.Erasure 2.Resurrection
If the ability is corruption then why is it listed as erasure?
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That is 100% semantics and you know it
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Literally how can it mean anything different from what it says to someone who doesn't know Destiny?
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How is it semantics? It said it brings them back and empowers them. What's implying that the erasure somehow isn't important?
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Ok sorry.
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Ok so how exactly does that save him from the 2 layers of extremely potent resistance negation, corruption, law manipulation, conceptual manipulation, body puppetry, mind manipulation, reality warping, and possessionYvel Atsly said:
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The description basically says corruption is after erasure.
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He resist all of them and has a chain of resistence to resistence negation starting from 8-C Demons to High 2-A Demons.
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Mind showing me which 8-C Demons had resistance negation
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Idk not on hand and the resistences chain starts there.
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Also how is my statment an NLF? Oryx has normal exisence erasure and Abel isn't erased slighty by the superior nonexistence erasure. So how exactly would the basic existence erasure affect Abel?
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Not entirely sure why you keep bringing up the EE when i conceded that it wouldn't work and also doesn't affect a single ******* thing
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