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One shot question
- Thread starter Livinmeme
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No.
On the Wiki to One shot, there has to be a 7.5x AP difference. (I think it's based on the difference between Human and Street Level).
But this doesn't apply to in-Universe characters. As there are plenty of finances where a character gets one shot by another with equal or barely 3x AP difference.
On the Wiki to One shot, there has to be a 7.5x AP difference. (I think it's based on the difference between Human and Street Level).
But this doesn't apply to in-Universe characters. As there are plenty of finances where a character gets one shot by another with equal or barely 3x AP difference.
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You completely musunderstand his question. Of course the 7.5x multiplier doesn't apply to in verse battles. He is talking about how unquantifiable gaps in verses take effect in vs matches.
And you're just taking the answers that you like and ignoring the ones you don't.
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depends on the character
hax, regen, and other stuff come into play
hax, regen, and other stuff come into play
Vizer04
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They don't, that's why they are unquantifiable...
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Oneshot in vsthreads is usually when the Ap difference is 7.5x, but if the character in-verse doesn't have a clear AP scale, but can oneshot baselines of the tier he is in, then he will oneshot baselines in vsthreads since that's how strong he is after all.
Vizer04
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That... doesn't make any sense, maybe the OPM has a one-shot gap of 1.000001x
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It makes every sense, unless you are arbitrarily trying to downplay the actual strength of the character.
Vizer04
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Ah yes, the actual strenght of a character that is unquantifiably stronger than baseline
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If this "unquantifiable" is enough to oneshot, then we can gauge it at a level that can oneshot, simple as that.
Vizer04
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And how do you know the AP gap to one-shot in the OPM verse is that of 7.5x? Can you prove that?
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When did I ever talk of OPM? When did I say that the character is 7.5x above baseline? Reread my last message because you kinda missed the point here.
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They are unquantifiable because they don't give an AP value.
Bruh vizer, you are basically saying that 2 characters one who is baseline mountain level and another who is also baseline mountain level but has 15 stage scaling chain of oneshotting, if they fight in a vs match they will be exactly equal. You don't need me to tell you that's stupid.
Bruh vizer, you are basically saying that 2 characters one who is baseline mountain level and another who is also baseline mountain level but has 15 stage scaling chain of oneshotting, if they fight in a vs match they will be exactly equal. You don't need me to tell you that's stupid.
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When we say that a character oneshots baseline in a vsthread, we are not saying that said character is 7.5x stronger, we are saying that his AP is = oneshots baseline. Just that. It is an unknown value, but that it can and will oneshot if you are baseline. You don't get amps or specific values from oneshots.
Vizer04
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We treat 7.5 as the bare minimum to one-shot, unless you can prove that Saitama is 7.5 above baseline then this argument doesn't hold up
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You keep missing the point. I already said in the beginning how it works.
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Vizer04
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Ok, i accept it now
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It also depends where they're hit, and if a character in a verse doesn't die from an attack over 7.5x their AP then why would we assume that in a versus thread?
The one-shot standards on this site are arbitrary. You'll have a lot more accuracy if you simply assess each example case-by-case.
The one-shot standards on this site are arbitrary. You'll have a lot more accuracy if you simply assess each example case-by-case.
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I kinda agree with @FinePoint even the term "one-shot" can be a misnomer since it can mean incapacitating someone, instantly killing them, destroying them with no physical trace of them remaining or more just with one attack.
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The 7.5x difference was pretty much to set up a bar. Probably because people kept wondering "at what point a character becomes strong enough to oneshot?", and if not solved it'd become an issue in vsthreads most likely, especially for verses that don't have their own standard values/instances of oneshot.
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Yes, that doesnt mean the character is 7.5x stronger, but that he can oneshot with an unknown value
We don't ignore in-verse oneshots in vsthreads, is the whole point.
