One Punch Man S-ClassDragon Level Downgrades

[That_moron2]

Currently S-Class/Dragon Level are rated at mountain level, the justification(to my knowledge) stemming from Carnage Kabuto is this:

(Stated to have physical abilities that are on an incomparably higher league than monsters before him[1], which would make him far stronger than the likes of Vaccine Man)

The problem being that Vaccine Man is only City level+. Upscaling a whole tier is completely baseless without solid multipliers. So likely far higher seems more safe.

 

[Recon1511]

Currently S-Class/Dragon Level are rated at mountain level, the justification(to my knowledge) stemming from Carnage Kabuto is this:

The problem being that Vaccine Man is only City level. Upscaling a whole tier is completely baseless without solid multipliers. So City level+ seems more accurate to me.

Oh, forgot to update Vaccine Man profile. He scales to 86 megatons now.

 

[Recon1511]

Wait, no... The profile is already updated

Vaccine Man

Vaccine Man (ワクチンマン, Wakuchin Man) is a Mysterious Being born due to the massive pollution released across the Earth by human beings, on top of the first monster we're introduced to in the series. According to him, he was created as an incarnation of nature's wrath, meant to wipe out humanity...

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[ZillertheBucko]

The problem being that Vaccine Man is only City level. Upscaling a whole tier is completely baseless without solid multipliers. So City level+ seems more accurate to me.

disagree FRA

 

[That_moron2]

Wait, no... The profile is already updated

Vaccine Man

Vaccine Man (ワクチンマン, Wakuchin Man) is a Mysterious Being born due to the massive pollution released across the Earth by human beings, on top of the first monster we're introduced to in the series. According to him, he was created as an incarnation of nature's wrath, meant to wipe out humanity...

vsbattles.fandom.com

We still have them upscaled 10+ Megatons. Usually a likely far higher would be used.

 

[Eseseso]

Shouldn't Vaccine Man's 2nd form upscale to 7-A?

 

[Recon1511]

We still have them upscaled 10+ Megatons. Usually a likely far higher would be used.

The difference from this 7-B+ value and baseline 7-A is like 1.1x

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

I feel as though the Dragon-level scaling should have some merit. Yes, there are exceptions to the rankings, like with Withered Sprout being classified as a Dragon-level threat, but generally, when Dragon-level threats are introduced, it's clear they're a step above demon-level monsters. And as @Recon1511 mentioned, the gap between 7-B and 7-A is extremely small.

 

[Recon1511]

I feel as though the Dragon-level scaling should have some merit. Yes, there are exceptions to the rankings, like with Withered Sprout being classified as a Dragon-level threat, but generally, when Dragon-level threats are introduced, it's clear they're a step above demon-level monsters. And as @Recon1511 mentioned, the gap between 7-B and 7-A is extremely small.

We aren't using threat levels, we are using a databook statement.

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

The difference from this 7-B+ value and baseline 7-A is like 1.1x

Oh shit the scaling went through?

NIIIIICE

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

We aren't using threat levels, we are using a databook statement.

So we're using the databook statement to justify all dragon-level tier placements, or just a select few like Carnage Kabuto?

 

[Recon1511]

So we're using the databook statement to justify all dragon-level tier placements, or just a select few like Carnage Kabuto?

Just those who scale to Carnage Kabuto and their respective scaling chains, mainly Darkshine.

 

[Cyber_VERGIL]

Doesn't the status "At least" mean that in discussions we have the right to multiply their strength depending on the situation? For example, one character is 60 megatons and the other is 25 megatons, but his dura is so high that he does not budge from hits of the 25 megaton level. In the discussion, we can safely say that the second character will be able to withstand a bunch of hits from the first character, due to the fact that such a big difference between strength and durability is clearly higher than 2 times.

I mean, "At least" status doesn't mean that we can claim that Asura has a 7-A in discussions, even if his profile says "At least 7-B"?

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Doesn't the status "At least" mean that in discussions we have the right to multiply their strength depending on the situation?

Not sure

For example, one character is 60 megatons and the other is 25 megatons, but his dura is so high that he does not budge from hits of the 25 megaton level. In the discussion, we can safely say that the second character will be able to withstand a bunch of hits from the first character, due to the fact that such a big difference between strength and durability is clearly higher than 2 times.

Not really. It just means the second character is unquantifiably higher than 25 megatons by a massive amount

I mean, "At least" status doesn't mean that we can claim that Asura has a 7-A in discussions, even if his profile says "At least 7-B"?

It's a case-by-case basis, but an upscaling can be warranted if the gap between one tier and the next higher tier is close enough

 

[Golden_Void]

It's a case-by-case basis, but an upscaling can be warranted if the gap between one tier and the next higher tier is close enough

Saitama would be tier 3 if this were true

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Saitama should be tier 3 regardless, but sp^2 revisions keep getting stalled