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Self explanatory.
We did AP, we did Lifting, now we do speed.
Everything's here.
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I wanted the early chars to be split. The keys prior to Alabasta were a mess, and we had Higher tier speed in lower tier keys.
I wanted there to be progression. The late story characters scaled to casual Enies Lobby feats. No reason why Oars, who blitzes the SHs, scales only to the weakest CP9 member's speed.
I wanted to find consistency with feats but not deem consistency as an outlier. The highest feat under the god tiers is barely above Rel+, which is a huge gap from SoL chars who blitzed people.
I wanted to have a gap between some of the characters. I'll tackle Post-Timeskip issues next thread, and boy there are a lot of them.
I wanted to have multiple values for certain results, and not 50 characters scaling off of only 2 feats.
I wanted all feats to be taken into consideration but not outlier feats. For example, we have a Sub-Rel+ Wyper feat here which is accepted and valid, but we consider Enel's lightning at Mach 1294. It'd be inconsistent for that feat to go through.
Also we have potential FTL feats for lower tier chars, but Kizaru's SoL. Makes no sense for SoL chars who get blitzed.
And we don't do that "oh well maybe his lightning is Sub-Rel+" or "his light is FTL" because of high values. Consistency is key.
We had too many "outliers" and "inconsistency" calcs which were all in one area, so I found and calced supports, and found scaling chains that were consistent and valid with the feats we had.
I thank @USklaverei who calced some of these feats, I thank those who evaluated my calcs, I thank those who helped me with the scaling.
NOW, let's discuss.
We did AP, we did Lifting, now we do speed.
Everything's here.
KingTempest16/One Piece Speed (Pre Timeskip)
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Let's discuss!
Changes
Main values people scale to- The Hypersonic+ characters like East Blue Luffy are scaled to Zoro's calc (Mach 24.9)
- They used to scale to this (Mach 12.8)
- The lowest Massively Hypersonic characters like Zala are scaled to Zala's calc (Mach 314)
- The highest Massively Hypersonic characters like Skypiea Nami are scaled to Nami's calc (Mach 413)
- They used to scale to this (Mach 37.3)
- The Massively Hypersonics+ like Skypiea Zoro are scaled to Zoro's calc (Mach 1068)
- They used to scale to this (Mach 721)
- The Sub-Relativistic characters like Jabra, Kaku, and Rob Lucci are scaled to Luffy's calc (0.07c)
- The lowest Relativistic characters like Thriller Bark Usopp and Franky scale to Luffy's calc (0.33c)
- The middle Relativistic characters like Ivankov and Magellan are scaled to Ivankov's calc (0.423c)
- The highest Relativistic characters like Thriller Bark Zoro and Thriller Bark G2nd Luffy are scaled to Zoro's calc (0.46c)
- The Relativistic+ characters like Marineford Gear 2nd Luffy are scaled to Ivankov's Death Wink's calc (0.59c)
- They used to scale to this (Mach 1192)
- The lowest FTL characters like Marco and Akainu are scaled to Marco's calc (3.61c)
- The highest FTL characters like Whitebeard and Roger are scaled to Whitebeard's calc (4.97c)
- They used to scale to this (0.57c)
I wanted the early chars to be split. The keys prior to Alabasta were a mess, and we had Higher tier speed in lower tier keys.
I wanted there to be progression. The late story characters scaled to casual Enies Lobby feats. No reason why Oars, who blitzes the SHs, scales only to the weakest CP9 member's speed.
I wanted to find consistency with feats but not deem consistency as an outlier. The highest feat under the god tiers is barely above Rel+, which is a huge gap from SoL chars who blitzed people.
I wanted to have a gap between some of the characters. I'll tackle Post-Timeskip issues next thread, and boy there are a lot of them.
I wanted to have multiple values for certain results, and not 50 characters scaling off of only 2 feats.
I wanted all feats to be taken into consideration but not outlier feats. For example, we have a Sub-Rel+ Wyper feat here which is accepted and valid, but we consider Enel's lightning at Mach 1294. It'd be inconsistent for that feat to go through.
Also we have potential FTL feats for lower tier chars, but Kizaru's SoL. Makes no sense for SoL chars who get blitzed.
And we don't do that "oh well maybe his lightning is Sub-Rel+" or "his light is FTL" because of high values. Consistency is key.
We had too many "outliers" and "inconsistency" calcs which were all in one area, so I found and calced supports, and found scaling chains that were consistent and valid with the feats we had.
I thank @USklaverei who calced some of these feats, I thank those who evaluated my calcs, I thank those who helped me with the scaling.
NOW, let's discuss.
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