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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

That's not being stupid, the mf made a whole plan to trick Judge and his children into coming to her island to murder them and steal their tech, she's actually quite smart if you think about it.
At most she's just being very full of her self and underestimating others too much.
 
1. Just wanna say, it irrationally frustrates me how weak King is in Base without his sword. Like, did Kaido forget to sign him up for boxing lessons or something?

2. Since both times Zoan King used Imperial Pride Stake, the flames on his back were off (which tbh explains why Pride Stake blitzes Zoro), wouldn't Zoan King's Flame-off durability scale to Pride Stake? I mean, he had to have endured the impact of his attack.
 
That's not being stupid, the mf made a whole plan to trick Judge and his children into coming to her island to murder them and steal their tech, she's actually quite smart if you think about it.
Just saying, she only did so well because Luffy only brought half the party.
 
1. Just wanna say, it irrationally frustrates me how weak King is in Base without his sword. Like, did Kaido forget to sign him up for boxing lessons or something?
he's weak based on?
2. Since both times Zoan King used Imperial Pride Stake, the flames on his back were off (which tbh explains why Pride Stake blitzes Zoro), wouldn't Zoan King's Flame-off durability scale to Pride Stake? I mean, he had to have endured the impact of his attack.
maybe
 
he's weak based on?
The fact that even Pre-Exoskeleton Base Sanji could match a kick from him.

There's this one scan in 1035 that may prove otherwise, but I'm waiting for the anime to show that panel just to be sure.

Slashing and piercing in OP are cracked.
True dat.

His Base w/o a sword couldn't overpower Sanji, his no-Haki base with a sword was throwing hands with Buso Zoro and Marco.
 
considering that there's no canon reason why bm didnt use her hao

do we say yamato can or can not spam it?
 
this feat bugs me but whatever
1. SAME.

2. If this one scan from 1035 panel gets expanded in the anime, it may change that and make Sanji matching his kick an outlier. Doesn't change Base Pre-Exo's current scaling, but still.

Not to mention his kicks could still either make Zoro dodge or send him flying.

its the same technique
so yes or no?
Different mindsets and fighting styles.
 
The fact that even Pre-Exoskeleton Base Sanji could match a kick from him.

There's this one scan in 1035 that may prove otherwise, but I'm waiting for the anime to show that panel just to be sure.


True dat.

His Base w/o a sword couldn't overpower Sanji, his no-Haki base with a sword was throwing hands with Buso Zoro and Marco.
To be fair, I think Sanji had the Raid Suit, which increases his speed, and thereby his kinetic energy.
 
To be fair, I think Sanji had the Raid Suit, which increases his speed, and thereby his kinetic energy.
No, it was agreed that Raid Suit Sanji is only above Base Sanji with his boosters, something which he didn't activate against Base King.
 
Well, I'm just waiting until the anime adaptation of 1035 (which fortunately should be in 2 weeks since the pacing has finally improved), since that'll likely answer both that and another question of mine.
 
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