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Yeah, he's just saying that both of them are above Marco
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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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He said that they are both relative/equal to Marco, which makes no sense.
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I know they aren't the same thing.
iirc, Akainu matching attacks from Sickbeard, for one.
I gotta find this because I don't remember it much.
More of relative/equal.
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If both Ifrit Jambe and Diable Jambe are relative to Marco's AP, that implies that Ifrit Jambe and Diable Jambe are relative as well, which is not true.
Marco matched attacks with Akainu. The same Marco that you're claiming Sanji's DJ AP is relative to.
Chapter 1034.
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Never said that it's mutually exclusive.
I'm saying that Ifrit Jambe and Diable Jambe can not be both relative to the same thing due to the fact that Ifrit Jambe is much stronger than Diable Jambe
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Let's see what IJ on its own can do in Egghead.
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Yeah scratch that, Marco is just above.
Not only did he match Akainu, but the Queen he clapped was fresh and more on guard than he was against Sanji at the end of the fight.
Sanji would only somewhat scale to some of his attacks.
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What..?
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Who the hell is talking about Ifrit Jambe?
Queen was perfectly on guard when Sanji hit him with Flanchet Strike, and yet it did more damage that Marco's bluebird.
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He's certainly using IJ on the Seraphim.
DJ and a base kick didn't do squat, he's gonna need IJ or something.
DJ and a base kick didn't do squat, he's gonna need IJ or something.
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Btw, I was thinking about an analysis of Sanji vs each of Zoro's "states" of power:
I mean, Current Luffy's Gears and Base are relative to each other despite the power difference.
- Base no-Haki Zoro: Sanji wins mid-high diff, as his Base easily matches if not surpasses no-Haki Base Zoro in AP, has comparable but arguably slightly inferior durability, and has obvious speed advantage. Zoro can't really hurt him without Haki.
- Buso Zoro (normal Buso, not Enma): High-Extreme diff either way, as AP is about equal when comparing Buso Zoro to IJ.
- Enma or ACoC: Zoro mid-high diffs
- KoH: Zoro could possibly one-shot, considering his KoH easily one-shot King's suit that took hits from Marco without damage. He'd do to Sanji what he did to Flame-off King.
To determine the gap between IJ and DJ, since we've only seen it stacked with Super Speed.
I mean, Current Luffy's Gears and Base are relative to each other despite the power difference.
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is there a shading difference between dj and ij?
DaMonkeMan
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Wow he really did a good job pushing him back a little.
I think so yeah.
Zoro would low-mid diff with Enma/ACoC, that shit was implied to be capable of seriously hurting Flame On King.
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look closer, one of his mechanical arms broke off
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The next panel has Queen wailing in pain and getting enraged.
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Those same mechanical arms have greater durability than his Zoan self too.
Marco never did nearly that level of damage to Queen.
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Uh, that arm was already broken when Sanji used Flanchet.
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His arms taking do damage from Pre-Exo Diable Jambe Sanji, who can harm Zoan Queen.
DaMonkeMan
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Okay lolVSBW mfs when you ask them to send the next panel
Which Marco also did.
From a different attack lol
How the **** do they have greater durability when he was tanking multiple DJ attacks which his arm couldn't do?
Yes, he did, and to Zoan Queen no less.
Dude had Queen coughing blood and admitting that it hurt. Next y'all gonna say Akainu clapped WB despite him leaking blood out of his mouth from each attack.
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That just means his arms are comparable in durability to his Zoan form, not superior.
His pre-Exo DJ didn't even do that much damage to Zoan Queen's hide, something Sanji flat-out admitted.
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? No it doesn't. If 1 thing takes damage from the same thing that something else tanked, then the second thing is more durable.
It's the same reason Queen's Haki > Zoan Queen's hide.
Read chapter 1023.
His heat couldn't get past his hide. In every instance where Queen was hit by DJ, Queen yelled out in pain.
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koh zoro also knew its pointless to attack a nearly out of stamina king as long as his flames are on
this statement is way more direct and obvious than zoro saying "scared, ni?"
DaMonkeMan
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What I don't get is how Zoro says "Flames are on, no point in attacking", when we literally see King dodge in that same panel.
Honestly, Flame-On King probably was afraid of getting hurt by KoH, especially since he flat-out said that he sensed Zoro's power level in the official translations.
DaMonkeMan
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Wonder if anyone made Law vs Yamato
DaMonkeMan
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Guess we don't have anymore matchups until Egghead is done.
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Bodying S-Shark
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DUde he gave you a honest respect for sanji to and this is how you treat it? something ain't right here, had a breakup from your cook boy?
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So stone walling eachother, huh?
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For some reason people on other sites say that S-Bear is "reacting" to G2 Luffy in this scan. Someone please explain to me at what point does it look like S-Bear is not getting speed-dominated.
Also, G2nd made S-Hawk bleed, but this is likely gonna be retconned like how Marco and 1022 Zoro made King bleed.
