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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

Sus said:
king has better speed with flames on?
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With flames on, he is comparable in Base but has speed amps (Not to mention his Pride State blitzes Oden), with Flames Off, he flat-out dominates in speed.

And while his flame-off Base is not too durable (I think somewhere above Base Queen but below Zoan/Hybrid Queen), his flame-off Zoan Form's durability still scales above his Zoan AP (which matched Marco and Zoro) since Ancient Zoan Durability > Ancient Zoan AP due to their tough scales/hides.

And, as Emin pointed out, Pride Stake is a one-shot move if not blocked since Zoro could block the one-shot explosion with Buso but not Pride Stake.
 
Speaking of King, I think his heat resistance should scale above Queen and Post-Exoskeleton DJ Sanji, since Queen confidently said that King can survive any environment, despite having just experienced the heat of Sanji's Post-Exoskeleton Diable Jambe.

Doesn't affect his flames, just his heat resistance.
 
though the ap gap is huge so king has to stay in the sky and land ranged hits to win
and if he takes his flames off, there's a good chance of oden doing severe damage
 
can the bosu extracted by enma be used to defend? since zoro and oden can manipulate it to coat 2-3 swords
 
Sus said:
though the ap gap is huge so king has to stay in the sky and land ranged hits to win
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Oden definitely has the AP advantage, but King did keep up with Buso Zoro who broke his suit when Marco couldn't, so while Oden is superior King isn't hopelessly outclassed and has Buso + Zoan + Imperial Flames to narrow the gap.

And if Oden gets too close, the explosion could one-shot him.

And Omori Karyudon was implied to be above the explosion, so that's a good ranged attack.
Sus said:
and if he takes his flames off, there's a good chance of oden doing severe damage
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Oh, absolutely.
 
Kachon123 said:
Post-Exoskeleton DJ Sanji's heat is the same as Pre-Exoskeleton Sanji's heat, which King already scales above.
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Thank you for clarifying.

Just curious, did Sanji's IJ actually burn Queen? I mean we know that it's hotter than DJ for sure since Sanji says so himself, but did it burn Queen?
 
Fireld said:
GREAT!! Now here's an actually important question: How much smarter than Vegapunk is Eggman? And how did you add those effects in your writing?
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Way above his league, the fact that eggman can decipher coding of once a thriving, advanced technological civilazation (now turned into a recurring creature to some extend) AND make a super intelligent AI that can hijack said tech speaks volumes to me about his genius intellect (said he could have been friends with sonic if the events that lead to his likely loneliness soon developed madness and thrist to conquer drove him on the opposite side of his grandfather..
 
Chianli said:
Way above his league, the fact that eggman can decipher coding of once a thriving, advanced technological civilazation (now turned into a recurring creature to some extend) AND make a super intelligent AI that can hijack said tech speaks volumes to me about his genius intellect (said he could have been friends with sonic if the events that lead to his likely loneliness soon developed madness and thrist to conquer drove him on the opposite side of his grandfather..
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This, and the fact that he upscales from Sage's own supergenius intellect.
 
Anime is actually trash... Kinda, like why the f are they forcing sadness or stuff like that? 1 thing could've fixed everything...

Actually nah, it's just humans who are trash 😴😤😤😤😤
 
O: I guess that's difficult. The answer is Paramecia. "Gura Gura no Mi" is considered as one of the most powerful paramecia fruits. It's easy to think that he's an "Earthquake Human" and must be Logia, but if that was so, he'd have to become an earthquake himself. Whitebeard creates earthquakes, in other words he's a "Tremor Human". That means he's a Paramecia who isn't any weaker than the Logias.
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If whitebeard was a logia, that would be broken af
 
Just found this Kachon comment on Reddit
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