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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

Ngl it's not even to gas up Shanks, idgaf if he's stronger or weaker than Kaido/Big Mom, but the implication for him being more dangerous via ACOC is there
 
She hit him while soul-amped and with 3 active homies, so no.
she never hit them with 3 homies, thats my biggest issue with her profile
the only time she combined her 3 homies was the first instance to one shot ulti and the second to slice punk corna dio (kidd had to dodge) and she created misery right after and that didnt directly hit either

big mom only used 1-2 homies to attack at a time
 
the implication for him being more dangerous via ACOC is there
i did say this as soon as he did the feat
but there's other stuff to consider before saying that shanks is >>> big mom (not you who said that)
 
I said G5 itself, not Bajrang Gun.
send 1 panel where g5 didnt use haki

also to clarify
im not saying no hao bigger mom > hao shanks
im saying that she did enough damage to safely say that if she used hao she could've one shot as well
 
man i hate this shit i cant send pics
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"blaj blah haki so strong who will win?" and you can clearly see advanced hao
 
2 things.
"Unguarded" is pushing it. He ate it through his own strongest attack, and he specifically said he wasn't holding back either
And Kaidou "temporarily" fell. Kid was dying
The explosion didn't actually hot him. Unless you're saying the fodders in the proximity are more durable than Kidd himself.
 
send 1 panel where g5 didnt use haki

also to clarify
im not saying no hao bigger mom > hao shanks
im saying that she did enough damage to safely say that if she used hao she could've one shot as well
We also have to take into account three things
Shanks' inactivity as a yonko never gave a clear indication to his power. That move was only his opener after all.
Shanks' WITNESSED activity, whatever it was against Kaido during the marineford war interception, had Kaido putting that man in his top 5
Hao is a matter of will. Big Mom might actually be less deadly with it than she is with her homies. If Shanks' willpower/mastery of Hao is better, higher chance he just does it better. Even kaido didn't show advanced haoshoku snipe, whereas Shanks could. He might genuinely be the strongest via Hao because it just gives him THAT big of an amp compared to others based on his mastery/willpower

The last one isn't grounded in fact, but it's fun speculation nonetheless. She could be stronger or just as strong with Hao, but as long as she hasn't shown it there's no real measure to judge her off of outside of her triple-homie+soul amplification state
 
Yes... That is literally why one piece exists or like the publisher of it or something... Oda/shonen jump creators gives small comments on everyone of them
Okay.
BTW I'm in a debate with someone on Lucci vs BM, anything I can say for BM's case?
Already winning but still.
 
We also have to take into account three things
Shanks' inactivity as a yonko never gave a clear indication to his power. That move was only his opener after all.
Shanks' WITNESSED activity, whatever it was against Kaido during the marineford war interception, had Kaido putting that man in his top 5
Hao is a matter of will. Big Mom might actually be less deadly with it than she is with her homies. If Shanks' willpower/mastery of Hao is better, higher chance he just does it better. Even kaido didn't show advanced haoshoku snipe, whereas Shanks could. He might genuinely be the strongest via Hao because it just gives him THAT big of an amp compared to others based on his mastery/willpower

The last one isn't grounded in fact, but it's fun speculation nonetheless. She could be stronger or just as strong with Hao, but as long as she hasn't shown it there's no real measure to judge her off of outside of her triple-homie+soul amplification state
kaido came out unscathed as scabbards are the the first ones to hurt him after oden so whatever was thrown was blocked

the rest is fair
But you were acting like it was inherent to G5.
my sister in christ luffy always uses haki
 
If Shanks' willpower/mastery of Hao is better, higher chance he just does it better.

By the way, this is added to by the fact that Luffy unlocked Advanced Hao and Kaido still called it "shallow".
Having it=/= being good with it. To me Big Mom only using it in a fit of rage is a point against her whereas Luffy/Kaido/Shanks can just use it regularly.
 
By the way, this is added to by the fact that Luffy unlocked Advanced Hao and Kaido still called it "shallow".
Having it=/= being good with it. To me Big Mom only using it in a fit of rage is a point against her whereas Luffy/Kaido/Shanks can just use it regularly.
fair...

but lets give her respect for what she did with no haki
 
fair...

but lets give her respect for what she did with no haki
lowkey scarier than Kaido when she wants to be tbh
I'm still entirely on the boat of her coming back during elbaf with less intentions of holding back/underestimating the new gen. She might surpass herself if she can stack the soul-year amps
 
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