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I never said that the only ability Gear 5 grants is Toon Force.
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One Piece: Further Gear 5th Ability Addition
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... So you think it's toon force that utilizes reality warping...?
Even tho I think it's meant to be the opposite
Gear 5/the devil fruit only grants one actual ability, and that is to fight however they want with unimaginable freedom
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I'm talking about VSBW classifications of ability, not in-universe classifications of ability.
A character can be stated to only have one power (I.e., being "psychic") in-universe, but depending on their feats we could list them with multiple abilities on the profile such as telepathy, telekinesis, etc.
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ohh ye I know but I'm asking about it's main abilities for the fruit... Not what luffy does with the fruit
So you agree that it's not just Toon force...? Do you disagree/agree with the reality warping aspect?
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Luffy already has Subjective Reality on his profile. Is this thread about replacing that with Toon Force, or just adding Toon Force to the profile?
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assuming from tempest likes and implication of the op that it's just toon force or reality warping and toon force but could be wrong
Guess have to wait for tempest proposition
Guess have to wait for tempest proposition
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That's rubber powers, it's basically a souped-up Gear 3rd.
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no it's not, it's from his gear 5 ability... His rubber powers only give his body rubbery properties
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It could really be both Toon Force and Subjective Reality
You know Gear 5th amplifies his rubber control in his body right?
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So why would the form, which enhances his powers, enhancing his size expansion powers not explain this?yes...? Since he is more of that zoan...
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not sure what your trying to say or connect to but at this point it doesn't even matter
Luffy can float and he doesn't do it for comedy or anything... Just something he wants to do
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To be fair the toon force page should also be updated to reflect what it's truly capable of since the ability in some cases can be used for different things than effecting reality in a "comedic" way. (Note: Not saying this is the case for G5 but there's a lot of general cases for this like the Mask for example.)
Toon force doesn't necessarily need to be funny or comedic in nature, hence why I think the page needs an update.
Toon force doesn't necessarily need to be funny or comedic in nature, hence why I think the page needs an update.
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Easy agree
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Why I also prefer reality warping to be it’s main ability over the other 2 is because we have someone else with a similar statement of denying common sense which wouldn’t count as subject reality or toon force but would instead be limited reality warping
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What DF is that?
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Defying common sense just means it's ridiculous, not that Wapol is a reality warper.
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Not true, this doesn't seem like that at all… transcending/going beyond common sense is defying reality/physics
That translation is only about how the devil fruit works, not what/how other people think of it
this will just countine to derail with nitpicks or something, it doesn't matter to the main point of why I consider Luffy's ability to be more in line with reality warping
Even The mask who is similar to luffy, in the ways that it's an actual ability you can get, has it also
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Luffy reaction towards Kizaru & Saturn:
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I agree with everything expect for the balls of venom
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Just get this done with and give him Toon Force and Reality Warping.
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Grace has hit, so adding
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Done, closing
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