Omnipresence vs Infinite speed

[Moathon]

Which is faster? Can a person with infinite speed tag a person with omnipresence? Can a person with omnipresence keep up with a person who has infinite speed? Is there even a diffrence between the two?

 

[Cropfist]

Omnipresence is faster.

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

It depends on the dimensional scale.

If three dimensional, then the omnipresent entity would most likely get blitzed unless they had comparable combat and reaction speeds; even then, with sufficient range omnipresence can be deemed useless.

There are too many variables that can be considered for there to be a simple answer.

 

[Moathon]

Omnipresence is faster.

But how does omnipresence work when the entire universe is destroyed?

I don't know the definitive answer but I know infinite speed works in nothingness where omnipresence doesn't work if there is no space to exist in.

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

Omnipresence can exist in a void as well. In many cases they can actually be the void.

 

[Antvasima]

Omnipresence isn't technically a speed, but a state of being. You are essentially comparing two different concepts.

 

[Szayelaporrothefabulous]

But he is not the first one to do so, for i have already witnessed my fair share of folks comparing the two in vs threads and more often than not regarding omnipresence as superior to infinite speed, providing little to no reasoning for that, and also using that as a reason as to why the omnipresent character should win, which begs the OP´s and another question on my end: Why do people claim that omnipresence is better than infinite speed? (If you feel i should get that question of mine answered in a seperate thread, do not hesitate to inform me of that)

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Fully Omnipresence exist in past, present, future. someone with infinite speed does not.

 

[Moathon]

Fully Omnipresence exist in past, present, future. someone with infinite speed does not.

That doesn't apply for all Omnipresent characters. Some omnipresent characters only take up space, not time, and vise-versa.

 

[Primaris_Brian]

I'm pretty sure I'm say Fully Omnipresence..not just some random meh Omnipresence.

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Omnipresence isn't technically a speed, but a state of being. You are essentially comparing two different concepts.

Btw should the omnipresent page been adjusted a bit since this is literally what the page say about omnipresent:

The ability lets you to be everywhere at once that is, at every point in space during a given instant, and is considered the highest level of speed in a debate since you are everywhere.

 

[Antvasima]

That should probably be adjusted, yes.

 

[Antvasima]

Our Speed page says nothing of the sort though.

 

[Omni-everything]

omnipresence wins cause your everywhere and nowhere your in the past and future even alternate timelines and dimensions

 

[Antvasima]

That depends on the degree of the omnipresence.

 

[Omni-everything]

@antvasima well is this a general omnipresent or nigh omnipresent

 

[Antvasima]

I meant that some characters are omnipresent on a spatial universal scale, some are omnipresent on a spatial and temporal universal scale, and some are omnipresent on higher orders of reality. The extent is generally defined by their tiers.

 

[Omni-everything]

ooooh ok still omnipresent win

 

[SSJRyu1]

My understanding is that infinite speed > 3D Omnipresence unless the omnipresent character also has infinite reaction speed showings. You need that temporal dimension, or 4D, to make it relevant to speed.

IIRC Infinite speed < 4D immeasurable speed < 4D Omnipresence < 5D immeasurable speed < 5D Omnipresence etc.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

Last question: Does fully omnipresence beings exist in the real world too or does it require High Tier Toonforce and/or breaking the 4th wall to do that?

 

[Primaris_Brian]

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