Old Man Henderson vs the Doomslayer

[DMUA]

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Speed Equalized

Otherwise Standard Battle Assumptions

Old Man Henderso:

THE MOTHERFORKING DOOMGUY:

Inconclusive:

Fearsome battle music:


Doot - E1M1 Knee-Deep in the Doot

 

[Overlord775]

Doom Slayer via much higher skill, versatility and greater durability via Praetor armor

 

[DMUA]

Probably, but Henderson is extremely skilled himself, being able to arm bombs within seconds and outdo military and several Eldrich nightmares

That too

This however... Doomslayer is 782 Tons to Henderson only dying a few moments after taking an explosion that killed several 800 Ton monsters.

 

[Overlord775]

Doom Slayer has lived for eons and has fought during all that time, so Hunderson can't even compare in skill

and Doom killed that 782 guy while don't having his armor and having only a sword as a weapon

 

[DMUA]

He fought mostly the same demons. Doing the same thing over and over doesn't make you particularly skilled. Of course, fighting several enemies on all sides who all individually know how to fight is something

I think he had the armor beforehand though

 

[Mand21]

I'm actually not sure who should win here.

 

[Mand21]

Okay, one argument: they seem pretty darn equal, so versatility can be a deciding factor now, right?

 

[DMUA]

Eh

Keep in mind, Doomslayer's gear is nowhere near as powerful as his bare hands. He mostly just likes versatility against weaker opponents. Going canonically, he could tear every demon in game apart via his bare hands and shorten the runtime by an absolute load

 

[Mand21]

Um... what is even ''left'' of Doomguy's versatility without any weapons?

 

[DMUA]

punching people

 

[Overlord775]

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also i'm 100% sure he didn't have the armor during the fight with the titan

 

[DMUA]

You mean that 8-B weapon

Eh I dunno

 

[Mand21]

Oh, I found something.

Henderson has 8-A durability only versus Doomguy's 8-A+. How much does this tell us?

 

[DMUA]

I forgot to add the + considering Henderson survived something that blew up several Shoggoths

 

[Mand21]

Doesn't that give Henderson an "at least 8-A+"? I mean, a direct hit from a multi-kill is worse than simply being on the kill range of the multi-kill.

 

[DMUA]

Well, he did die shortly afterwards along with Hastur, so I'm not entirely sure

Besides the way I put it makes it weird to add "At least"

 

[Mand21]

I kinda have the feeling that an attack that can kill many almost 300 ton guys could be Low 7-C overall. Don't you usually sum the individual APs when a multiple attack is done or something?

 

[DMUA]

I mean, the main problem is

>We don't know how many Shoggoths were there or how badly they were damaged >We don't know how much of the blast Henderson directly took >It's generally vague and I don't want to stretch it

 

[Mand21]

Oh, I see :c

Yeah, that makes it hard to establish him as Low 7-C. Which means the two seem very balanced, whoever wins does it from a very high-diff.

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

He fought mostly the same demons. Doing the same thing over and over doesn't make you particularly skilled. Of course, fighting several enemies on all sides who all individually know how to fight is something
I think he had the armor beforehand though

 

[DMUA]

I mean

He was indeed fighting the same demons on an eons long loop

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

Yeah. Back when he was still the original Doomguy who had Tier 9 stats and no Praetor Armor to speak of.

And yes, it's confirmed that he didn't have his Praetor Armor until after defeating the Titan. He only had a sword at the time (probably due to his other weapons running out of ammo, because Hell doesn't have an infinite supply of ammunition for guns that originate from Earth), and he was still killing demons above his paygrade for countless years.