Obito Uchiha vs. Gerard Valkyrie

[AppleLord]

Bazz-B, Nanana, Giselle were Auswhalen and they could still use their powers. Gerard powers have a limit and this proves it.

in which chapter was that?

I don't rember the chapters. Bazz-B fought Jugram with fire after Auswhalen, Nanana use his letter on Aizen after Auswhalen, and Giselle was controlling her zombies after Auswhalen as well.

 

[GreatestSin]

i looked at every chapter after ywach used his auswählen, that was ch680

here he uses it: http://www.***********.net/bleach/680/15, http://www.***********.net/bleach/680/16, http://www.***********.net/bleach/680/17

and neither bazz, nanana or giselle got shown...

 

[AppleLord]

That's the second Auswhalen, I was referring to the first one, he uses it to revive the Elites.

 

[GreatestSin]

^that auwählen didnt hit every ritter with that: http://www.***********.net/bleach/603/14 they evaded it, and here haschwalt mentions what auswählen does again: http://www.***********.net/bleach/604/9

 

[AppleLord]

Bazz-B and Nanana took it head on and they had their powers same with Giselle and Lilotto who evade it.

http://www.***********.net/bleach/603/15

 

[GreatestSin]

that was a plothole,

first it was "you die if you are to weak, otherwise your power is gone"

than it was "you die if your powrs are absorbed except for some people who out of unknown reason wont get their powers absorbed"...the only reason i can think of is that ywach didnt need to absorb their powers for his 4 guardians, ishida survived the last auswählen too because ywach didnt even try to take his power :/

than it was "you die no matter what once auswählen is used, it doesnt even matter if there is something blocking the way" (like how haschwalth was in a building while the light affected him)...

all in all, the ending of bleach is a big mess, but most of the time auswählen takes the power which than kills the user so i take this as a explanation for gerards death...

 

[AppleLord]

All who where shown to survive Auswhalen still had their powers, is not a plot hole.

 

[GreatestSin]

^the fact that they survived it is a plothole,

once your power is taken you die, gerards power got taken, he died, bazz and cos powers wasnt taken -> they didnt die,

and the look of gerard is similar to that old quincy dude too, it makes more sense to me that gerard got his powers stolen and died because of that than some kind of limit ragarding the number of times he can regenerate :/

but if you still think otherwise than this will be a agree to disagree case...

 

[AppleLord]

There are less people that die from those who survive making the minority's death the plot hole.

 

[GreatestSin]

only 3 people survived the auswählen, and anyone else died as far as we know...

 

[AppleLord]

The only ones that are confirmed dead by it are Gerard, Jugram and Robert. Jugram didn't die like them.

 

[Adam_of_darkness]

I dont see how can Gerard come back from atomization

Obito wins

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Anyway, I don't think there's any need to discuss about Gerard's Regenerationn for now since Obito has some other ways to put him down while the same can't be said for Gerard.